Hi, everyone:
Well I'm calling for your help after days and nights of trying the
installation of php with no results.
My only sin is to have an unsupported S (win 95 and PWS 4), so every
installation of any version have seem close to a nightmare.
So the question is, what's the version? (no matter how old it can be,
i REALLY NEED to start programming in php)
Thanks in advance,
John

John,

My recommendation is to somehow install Windows 2000 and then PHP 5 on
IIS using ISAPI. I've run Windows 2000 with minimal graphics settings
and been able to function. If you have older than a Pentium II
processor, it's time to buy a new computer. Even the cheapest one you
can find will be better. If you live somewhere where computers are
extremely difficult to come by, I may even be able to ship a computer
to you if the company I work for would be willing to dontate one. At
least one that will run Windows 2000.

I've had Windows 2000 running on a Pentium "1" 133 MHz. If your
computer is at least that good, you could probably do the same. You
may, at most, have to update your motherboard's BIS (usually free)
and then upgrade the hard drive.
-Aaron Kenney

5/19/06, John Jairo Vega Angulo <brazodereina (AT) gmail (DOT) comwrote:
Hi, everyone:
Well I'm calling for your help after days and nights of trying the
installation of php with no results.
My only sin is to have an unsupported S (win 95 and PWS 4), so every
installation of any version have seem close to a nightmare.

So the question is, what's the version? (no matter how old it can be,
i REALLY NEED to start programming in php)
Thanks in advance,
John
--

"Too much fantasy loses reality, too much hope may seem somehow empty"

-Toriyama Akira
--

Aaron Kenney wrote:
John,

My recommendation is to somehow install Windows 2000 and then PHP 5 on
IIS using ISAPI. I've run Windows 2000 with minimal graphics settings
and been able to function. If you have older than a Pentium II
processor, it's time to buy a new computer. Even the cheapest one you
can find will be better. If you live somewhere where computers are
extremely difficult to come by, I may even be able to ship a computer
to you if the company I work for would be willing to dontate one. At
least one that will run Windows 2000.

I've had Windows 2000 running on a Pentium "1" 133 MHz. If your
computer is at least that good, you could probably do the same. You
may, at most, have to update your motherboard's BIS (usually free)
and then upgrade the hard drive.
-Aaron Kenney

5/19/06, John Jairo Vega Angulo <brazodereina (AT) gmail (DOT) comwrote:

>Hi, everyone:
>Well I'm calling for your help after days and nights of trying the
>installation of php with no results.
>My only sin is to have an unsupported S (win 95 and PWS 4), so every
>installation of any version have seem close to a nightmare.
>>
>So the question is, what's the version? (no matter how old it can be,
>i REALLY NEED to start programming in php)
You do of course know that php works fine on Linux, Linux runs on just
about any hardware and certainly on older PCs.

Linux is free and not half as difficult to setup as one is given to
believe.

With it you can do just about anything that one could do with Windows
and you will find a hugh amount of support and assistance on the
Internet for whatever distribution of Linux you might choose.

If you follow some basic rules php scripts/apps developed on Linux will
run on Windows either under IIS or Apache. In fact php is developed on
Linux.

I know this is a php windows email group but I thought that I would
share the above with you anyway.

Everyone,

We all need to remember also that once a person is used to Windows,
Linux is a learning curve (albeit a small one) that doesn't need to be
acheived if one has access to Windows. No one wants to spend time
where it is not required to get the job done.

I've set up PHP on Apache on Fedora 4 and 5. Done using yum, this can
actually be an easier setup than on Windows. But I have found the
MANUAL installation on Fedora to be more difficult than that of the
MANUAL installation on Windows/IIS simply because I am less familiar
with Fedora. There are some situations where I have been forced to use
a manual installation of PHP, so this is always a concern for me.

I say if you just want to get PHP up-and-running quick and dirty,
stick with what you know so that no time is wasted.
-Aaron Kenney

5/21/06, Alf Stockton <alf (AT) stockton (DOT) co.zawrote:
Aaron Kenney wrote:
John,

My recommendation is to somehow install Windows 2000 and then PHP 5 on
IIS using ISAPI. I've run Windows 2000 with minimal graphics settings
and been able to function. If you have older than a Pentium II
processor, it's time to buy a new computer. Even the cheapest one you
can find will be better. If you live somewhere where computers are
extremely difficult to come by, I may even be able to ship a computer
to you if the company I work for would be willing to dontate one. At
least one that will run Windows 2000.

I've had Windows 2000 running on a Pentium "1" 133 MHz. If your
computer is at least that good, you could probably do the same. You
may, at most, have to update your motherboard's BIS (usually free)
and then upgrade the hard drive.

-Aaron Kenney
--
5/19/06, John Jairo Vega Angulo <brazodereina (AT) gmail (DOT) comwrote:
>
>Hi, everyone:
>Well I'm calling for your help after days and nights of trying the
>installation of php with no results.
>My only sin is to have an unsupported S (win 95 and PWS 4), so every
>installation of any version have seem close to a nightmare.
>>
>So the question is, what's the version? (no matter how old it can be,
>i REALLY NEED to start programming in php)
You do of course know that php works fine on Linux, Linux runs on just
about any hardware and certainly on older PCs.

Linux is free and not half as difficult to setup as one is given to
believe.

With it you can do just about anything that one could do with Windows
and you will find a hugh amount of support and assistance on the
Internet for whatever distribution of Linux you might choose.

If you follow some basic rules php scripts/apps developed on Linux will
run on Windows either under IIS or Apache. In fact php is developed on
Linux.

I know this is a php windows email group but I thought that I would
share the above with you anyway.

Aaron Kenney wrote:
Everyone,

We all need to remember also that once a person is used to Windows,
Linux is a learning curve (albeit a small one) that doesn't need to be
acheived if one has access to Windows. No one wants to spend time
where it is not required to get the job done.

I've set up PHP on Apache on Fedora 4 and 5. Done using yum, this can
actually be an easier setup than on Windows. But I have found the
MANUAL installation on Fedora to be more difficult than that of the
MANUAL installation on Windows/IIS simply because I am less familiar
with Fedora. There are some situations where I have been forced to use
a manual installation of PHP, so this is always a concern for me.

I say if you just want to get PHP up-and-running quick and dirty,
stick with what you know so that no time is wasted.

As the original question included inter alia:-
>>Well I'm calling for your help after days and nights of trying the
>>installation of php with no results.
>>My only sin is to have an unsupported S (win 95 and PWS 4), so >>
>>every installation of any version have seem close to a nightmare.
>>>
Are you suggesting that John Jairo Vega Angulo should go out and buy(I
am sure that you are not suggesting that he steals one) a copy of a
suitable version of Windows to then discover that on his old hardware it
runs as slow as a pig and therefore should also go out and buy some new
hardware. As well as go through the learning curve of the new Windows S.?

I don't believe this list should become a platform for the Windows VS
Linux debate. I did my best to suggest nothing as to how he would get
Windows 2000, because quite frankly, I don't have a suggestion, or a
solution. I do know that a mondern-day Linux distro would be just as
resource intensive, unless you'd expect a Windows guy to work strictly
from the console.

All I am trying to suggest is that if you are going to make the jump
to Linux/Apache and you are not familiar with either, be prepared to
devote time to getting it working. , stick with what works
instead of trying to "reinvent the wheel."
-Aaron Kenney

5/22/06, Alf Stockton <alf (AT) stockton (DOT) co.zawrote:
Aaron Kenney wrote:
Everyone,

We all need to remember also that once a person is used to Windows,
Linux is a learning curve (albeit a small one) that doesn't need to be
acheived if one has access to Windows. No one wants to spend time
where it is not required to get the job done.

I've set up PHP on Apache on Fedora 4 and 5. Done using yum, this can
actually be an easier setup than on Windows. But I have found the
MANUAL installation on Fedora to be more difficult than that of the
MANUAL installation on Windows/IIS simply because I am less familiar
with Fedora. There are some situations where I have been forced to use
a manual installation of PHP, so this is always a concern for me.

I say if you just want to get PHP up-and-running quick and dirty,
stick with what you know so that no time is wasted.

As the original question included inter alia:-
>>Well I'm calling for your help after days and nights of trying the
>>installation of php with no results.
>>My only sin is to have an unsupported S (win 95 and PWS 4), so >>
>>every installation of any version have seem close to a nightmare.
>>>
Are you suggesting that John Jairo Vega Angulo should go out and buy(I
am sure that you are not suggesting that he steals one) a copy of a
suitable version of Windows to then discover that on his old hardware it
runs as slow as a pig and therefore should also go out and buy some new
hardware. As well as go through the learning curve of the new Windows S.?