[snip]
I am a programmer who is fairly new to PHP, and I had a problem trying
to make changes to existing code. I tried to look up any existing
documentation on your site, and after an extensive search, I finally
found someone who has the same problem. The only problem is that he
said something about applying a snapshot that fixed his problem. I
think I finally found the place on your site where these "snapshots" are
kept, but I am unable to download the .ZIP file because of security here
at our facility. The thing is, I'm not even sure whether I'm on the
right page, or whether this will actually fix my problem, or what I'm
supposed to do with this "snapshot" once I get it. You have no
documentation (that I can find) about what a "snapshot" is, or how to
download it, or what to do with it. I think I'm going to have to submit
a bug report, because I don't know what else to do on your site (even
though I've run across several warnings NT to submit a bug report if a
problem has already been reported). Your site is incredibly frustrating
and difficult to navigate.
[/snip]
So let me send a rant to other users, in fact a general list of users,
because I cannot read. If I could I would know that I subscribed to a
list where questions are asked to other users rather than me trying to
send an e-mail to the president of PHP (a hat worn proudly). The entire
sire is documentation and anywhere from one to five minutes of even the
lightest reason would have spelled that out, not to mention that the
second link across the top of the page says in very vague terms,
'documentation'. Is this a run on paragraph? I am asking because English
is incredibly frustrating and difficult to use.
Department of Technology indeed.

Jay Blanchard wrote:
So let me send a rant to other users, in fact a general list of users,
because I cannot read. If I could I would know that I subscribed to a
list where questions are asked to other users rather than me trying to
send an e-mail to the president of PHP (a hat worn proudly). The entire
sire is documentation and anywhere from one to five minutes of even the
lightest reason would have spelled that out, not to mention that the
second link across the top of the page says in very vague terms,
'documentation'. Is this a run on paragraph? I am asking because English
is incredibly frustrating and difficult to use.

Department of Technology indeed.

As an aside, I think that the online and offline (downloadable) PHP
documentation is probably the clearest, best organized and complete set
of documentation for any programming language I've run into online.

I honestly think that the PHP coders/documentors deserve a lot of
gratitude for the immense effort that must have gone into documenting
the immense list of built-in stuff that PHP has.

jon

Mon, September 18, 2006 1:43 pm, Jon Anderson wrote:
As an aside, I think that the online and offline (downloadable) PHP
documentation is probably the clearest, best organized and complete
set
of documentation for any programming language I've run into online.

Certainly online.

I think that "Common Lisp, the Language", might give it a run for its
money in the offline category. :-)

Hell, I even re-read that book for fun one time, and I rarely read
textbooks the first time around

I honestly think that the PHP coders/documentors deserve a lot of
gratitude for the immense effort that must have gone into documenting
the immense list of built-in stuff that PHP has.

Let it also be noted that the PHP Community, the people on this very
list, are largely responsible for much of the documentation through
User Contributed Notes that got promoted to "real" status, or, for
that matter, that exist as a priceless body of work in themselves.

Am 2006-09-18 14:43:12, schrieb Jon Anderson:

As an aside, I think that the online and offline (downloadable) PHP
documentation is probably the clearest, best organized and complete set
of documentation for any programming language I've run into online.

I wish, the downloadable documentation would include all those
examples since this is, WHY the Documentation is realy great.

I have bougth a PHP book which does not have more infos as the
downloadable documentation Thats Frustrating! :-(

Greetings
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant

Am 2006-09-22 13:36:40, schrieb Arno Kuhl:

I'm not sure which examples you're referring to but if you mean the user
contributed notes then the download documentation does include this - at

Yes

least one of the .chm versions does. It's great, but you need to download it

chm ? - Windows ? Meeeeeeeeeeeee? <plof>@@@@

regularly if you want the latest notes (obviously). Use one of the skins and
it's even better (I use the phpZ skin which displays a tab for the user
notes).

You mean in winhlp32.exe ? Right ?

It is a realy nice tool but unfortunatly for the false S.

I was already thinking on coding a "linhelp" program, but
it seems there is one but I have not found it.

I like to have html files which I can put on my internal
documentation server.

Greetings
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant

Friday 22 September 2006 16:48, Michelle Konzack wrote:
Am 2006-09-22 13:36:40, schrieb Arno Kuhl:
I'm not sure which examples you're referring to but if you mean the user
contributed notes then the download documentation does include this - at

Yes

least one of the .chm versions does. It's great, but you need to download
it

.chm ? - Windows ? Meeeeeeeeeeeee? <plof>@@@@

regularly if you want the latest notes (obviously). Use one of the skins
and it's even better (I use the phpZ skin which displays a tab for the
user notes).

You mean in winhlp32.exe ? Right ?

It is a realy nice tool but unfortunatly for the false S.

I was already thinking on coding a "linhelp" program, but
it seems there is one but I have not found it.

I like to have html files which I can put on my internal
documentation server.

Greetings
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant

It's not the best in the world, but it works.

But since the documentation is online and always updated that way, I prefer to
just use the website.

Michelle Konzack wrote:

Am 2006-09-22 13:36:40, schrieb Arno Kuhl:

>I'm not sure which examples you're referring to but if you mean the user
>contributed notes then the download documentation does include this - at

Yes

>least one of the .chm versions does. It's great, but you need to download
>it

.chm ? - Windows ? Meeeeeeeeeeeee? <plof>@@@@

>regularly if you want the latest notes (obviously). Use one of the skins
>and it's even better (I use the phpZ skin which displays a tab for the
>user notes).

You mean in winhlp32.exe ? Right ?

It is a realy nice tool but unfortunatly for the false S.

I was already thinking on coding a "linhelp" program, but
it seems there is one but I have not found it.

I like to have html files which I can put on my internal
documentation server.

xchm is probably what you are thinking of - xchm.sourceforge.net

Cheers

Am 2006-09-25 23:00:15, schrieb David Robley:
xchm is probably what you are thinking of - xchm.sourceforge.net
This afternoon I will go downloading it.
Greetings
Michelle Konzack

Am 2006-09-25 08:33:52, schrieb Ray Hauge:

It's not the best in the world, but it works.

But since the documentation is online and always updated that way, I prefer to
just use the website.

Me too, but IF you live mobil like me (I have an 88-tons MAN-SuperTruck
as MotorCaravan) you wil not have Internet Access all the time. K, I
have GlobelSat but it is quiet expensive because I pay for the traffic.

Greetings
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant

Fri, September 22, 2006 4:48 pm, Michelle Konzack wrote:
I like to have html files which I can put on my internal
documentation server.

I believe http://mirrors.php.net or somesuch has instructions on how
to++ run your own private mirror, with (or without) UCN*

* UCN - User Contributed Notes
++ And how *not* to do it, as you'll tick them off. :-)

Michelle Konzack wrote:

Am 2006-09-25 08:33:52, schrieb Ray Hauge:

>It's not the best in the world, but it works.
>
>
>
>But since the documentation is online and always updated that way, I
>prefer to just use the website.

Me too, but IF you live mobil like me (I have an 88-tons MAN-SuperTruck
as MotorCaravan) you wil not have Internet Access all the time. K, I
have GlobelSat but it is quiet expensive because I pay for the traffic.

88 tons!! Point us to an image of that please.

Cheers

Am 2006-09-27 17:39:25, schrieb David Robley:

88 tons!! Point us to an image of that please.

Currently not availlable but it is an ex Pershing II Transporter
from the US-Army manufactured by the german Enterprise MAN.

Greetings
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant

Sun, 1, 2006 5:42 pm, Michelle Konzack wrote:
Am 2006-09-27 17:39:25, schrieb David Robley:
>
>88 tons!! Point us to an image of that please.
>
Currently not availlable but it is an ex Pershing II Transporter
from the US-Army manufactured by the german Enterprise MAN.

Please tell me you're not driving the tank-like thingie in the
foreground of this photo:

What kinda gas mileage can you get from something like that?!

LL

Michelle Konzack wrote:

Am 2006-09-27 17:39:25, schrieb David Robley:

>88 tons!! Point us to an image of that please.

Currently not availlable but it is an ex Pershing II Transporter
from the US-Army manufactured by the german Enterprise MAN.

You surely don't mean the tracked vehicle that was used to transport the
missiles? How the #&%@ can you register and drive something like that.
Boggle!

Cheers

03/10/06, David Robley <robleyd (AT) ozemail (DOT) com.auwrote:
Michelle Konzack wrote:

Am 2006-09-27 17:39:25, schrieb David Robley:
>
>88 tons!! Point us to an image of that please.
>
Currently not availlable but it is an ex Pershing II Transporter
from the US-Army manufactured by the german Enterprise MAN.

You surely don't mean the tracked vehicle that was used to transport the
missiles? How the #&%@ can you register and drive something like that.
Boggle!

Probably not. Try looking for a picture of a MAN M1014 Transporter
Erector Launcher.

ummm here's one:

-robin

Am 2006-10-03 22:39:39, schrieb David Robley:

You surely don't mean the tracked vehicle that was used to transport the
missiles? How the #&%@ can you register and drive something like that.
Boggle!

You go to the TV and change the 88 tons to 44 tons and you are
done. It works perfectly in germany but In France you will go in
prison, since the cabine of the vihicule us bulletproof and french
police office can not shoot you. :-P

But since my Truck is registered in germany, I do not care about
french laws I have enough of french bull**** including the
interdiction to use Bio-Diesel I have 4000 liter of it Board
since it is 60% of the price of Diesel/Gasoil

Note:My whole Truck is Linux-Driven and I can admin/maintain
my two 750HP engines plus Solarpanels over a php5-
intercace including statistics and much more!

Since PHP5 I have gotten the real power of PHP

Greetings
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant