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    These are likely to sound like silly questions, so please pause a
    moment whilst I don my asbestos long-johns thanks. I also tried
    submitting them to a local Linux user group, and as far as I can tell,
    it was consigned to oblivion, so I'll try a somewhat larger audience.
    I have a relatively old IBM ThinkPad - I think about 600 MHz speed -
    which has been pretty much relegated to providing wireless access to
    our stereo system. Windows XP Pro has been great about providing
    support for the PCMCIA card that gives USB 2.0 slots, as well as the
    external hard drive and the EdiMax wireless connector (basically a
    ZYDas-based chipset) that are plugged into the PCMCIA card.
    Now, I'm interested in using Linux in place of Windows XP - all I'm
    doing with it is playing music, hosting music files for other computers
    in the home network, and some limited web browsing (weather.com and
    Shoutcast sites). I can see without too much trouble setting up a Linux
    partition for dual-booting, and limiting just what is getting put onto
    the laptop.
    Here are my questions:
    1) How can I find a Live-CD linux distro that will support the hardware
    I mentioned above?
    2) If I can't find one, how would I go about building such a Live-CD?
    The reason that I'm asking these questions is because I could see a
    potential opportunity for people to be able to use such a Live-CD on
    their old laptops as an answer to Windows Media Center, crummy sound
    cards notwithstanding. As a last resort, I can burn an IS of an
    existing distro so that my laptop's poor little 4x CD-RM will be able
    to read it, and just bite the bullet and dual-boot.
    Thanks for the information!
    John Gardner
  • No.1 | | 2660 bytes | |

    ballpointpenguin@everestkc.net wrote:

    These are likely to sound like silly questions, so please pause a
    moment whilst I don my asbestos long-johns thanks. I also tried
    submitting them to a local Linux user group, and as far as I can tell,
    it was consigned to oblivion, so I'll try a somewhat larger audience.

    I have a relatively old IBM ThinkPad - I think about 600 MHz speed -
    which has been pretty much relegated to providing wireless access to
    our stereo system. Windows XP Pro has been great about providing
    support for the PCMCIA card that gives USB 2.0 slots, as well as the
    external hard drive and the EdiMax wireless connector (basically a
    ZYDas-based chipset) that are plugged into the PCMCIA card.
    --
    Now, I'm interested in using Linux in place of Windows XP - all I'm
    doing with it is playing music, hosting music files for other computers
    in the home network, and some limited web browsing (weather.com and
    Shoutcast sites). I can see without too much trouble setting up a Linux
    partition for dual-booting, and limiting just what is getting put onto
    the laptop.
    --
    Here are my questions:
    --
    1) How can I find a Live-CD linux distro that will support the hardware
    I mentioned above?
    --
    2) If I can't find one, how would I go about building such a Live-CD?
    --
    The reason that I'm asking these questions is because I could see a
    potential opportunity for people to be able to use such a Live-CD on
    their old laptops as an answer to Windows Media Center, crummy sound
    cards notwithstanding. As a last resort, I can burn an IS of an
    existing distro so that my laptop's poor little 4x CD-RM will be able
    to read it, and just bite the bullet and dual-boot.
    --
    Thanks for the information!
    --
    John Gardner

    I'de recommend a series of steps:

    1. Check the various Linux compatibility sites on line to see if your
    specific unit is described. That way you will discover more information
    than you probably want to know about the laptop, but it will be useful in
    the long run.

    2. a CD Image of either Knoppix or break down and buy the book by
    Marcel Gagnon which includes the CD. See how that works.

    3. What you are trying is not so out of the ordinary. I even ran an old
    Compaq Aero back in 1994 on both S2 Warp and Linux just to see if it would
    work and both were better than Windows for Workgroups 3.11 at that time.

    Good Luck and come back here often to tell us what transpires.

    Cheers,

    Dave

    Study History - Know the Future
  • No.2 | | 2021 bytes | |

    ballpointpenguin@everestkc.net wrote:

    I have a relatively old IBM ThinkPad - I think about 600 MHz speed -
    which has been pretty much relegated to providing wireless access to
    our stereo system. Windows XP Pro has been great about providing
    support for the PCMCIA card that gives USB 2.0 slots, as well as the
    external hard drive and the EdiMax wireless connector (basically a
    ZYDas-based chipset) that are plugged into the PCMCIA card.

    A model number would have been useful, but generally IBM laptops are
    pretty linux friendly. Have a look at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ for
    more detailed reports on your model.

    Now, I'm interested in using Linux in place of Windows XP - all I'm
    doing with it is playing music, hosting music files for other
    computers in the home network, and some limited web browsing
    (weather.com and Shoutcast sites). I can see without too much trouble
    setting up a Linux partition for dual-booting, and limiting just what
    is getting put onto the laptop.

    All possible with linux.

    --
    Here are my questions:
    --
    1) How can I find a Live-CD linux distro that will support the
    hardware I mentioned above?

    You /could/, by trawling though the web for people's comments or it'll
    be far easier to simply try them out.
    www.distrowatch.com/

    2) If I can't find one, how would I go about building such a Live-CD?

    Do a search. There are lots of sites.

    The reason that I'm asking these questions is because I could see a
    potential opportunity for people to be able to use such a Live-CD on
    their old laptops as an answer to Windows Media Center, crummy sound
    cards notwithstanding. As a last resort, I can burn an IS of an
    existing distro so that my laptop's poor little 4x CD-RM will be able
    to read it, and just bite the bullet and dual-boot.

    Add mythTV to any linux distro to create your own media centre.
    HTH
    chris.
  • No.3 | | 2205 bytes | |

    Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:44:31 -0800, ballpointpenguin@everestkc.net wrote:

    These are likely to sound like silly questions, so please pause a
    moment whilst I don my asbestos long-johns thanks. I also tried
    submitting them to a local Linux user group, and as far as I can tell,
    it was consigned to oblivion, so I'll try a somewhat larger audience.

    I have a relatively old IBM ThinkPad - I think about 600 MHz speed -
    which has been pretty much relegated to providing wireless access to
    our stereo system. Windows XP Pro has been great about providing
    support for the PCMCIA card that gives USB 2.0 slots, as well as the
    external hard drive and the EdiMax wireless connector (basically a
    ZYDas-based chipset) that are plugged into the PCMCIA card.
    --
    Now, I'm interested in using Linux in place of Windows XP - all I'm
    doing with it is playing music, hosting music files for other computers
    in the home network, and some limited web browsing (weather.com and
    Shoutcast sites). I can see without too much trouble setting up a Linux
    partition for dual-booting, and limiting just what is getting put onto
    the laptop.
    --
    Here are my questions:
    --
    1) How can I find a Live-CD linux distro that will support the hardware
    I mentioned above?
    --
    2) If I can't find one, how would I go about building such a Live-CD?
    --
    The reason that I'm asking these questions is because I could see a
    potential opportunity for people to be able to use such a Live-CD on
    their old laptops as an answer to Windows Media Center, crummy sound
    cards notwithstanding. As a last resort, I can burn an IS of an
    existing distro so that my laptop's poor little 4x CD-RM will be able
    to read it, and just bite the bullet and dual-boot.
    --
    Thanks for the information!
    --
    John Gardner

    I'd suggest you start with Knoppix, and the 'Reilly book 'Knoppix Hacks'.
    Boot the latest Knoppix Live CD (or, even better, the Live DVD) and see
    what happens. The book includes extensive information on 'remastering'
    Knoppix and making your own Live CDs.

  • No.4 | | 2852 bytes | |

    Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:44:31 -0800, ballpointpenguin@everestkc.net wrote:

    These are likely to sound like silly questions, so please pause a
    moment whilst I don my asbestos long-johns thanks. I also tried
    submitting them to a local Linux user group, and as far as I can tell,
    it was consigned to oblivion, so I'll try a somewhat larger audience.

    I have a relatively old IBM ThinkPad - I think about 600 MHz speed -
    which has been pretty much relegated to providing wireless access to
    our stereo system. Windows XP Pro has been great about providing
    support for the PCMCIA card that gives USB 2.0 slots, as well as the
    external hard drive and the EdiMax wireless connector (basically a
    ZYDas-based chipset) that are plugged into the PCMCIA card.
    --
    Now, I'm interested in using Linux in place of Windows XP - all I'm
    doing with it is playing music, hosting music files for other computers
    in the home network, and some limited web browsing (weather.com and
    Shoutcast sites). I can see without too much trouble setting up a Linux
    partition for dual-booting, and limiting just what is getting put onto
    the laptop.
    --
    Here are my questions:
    --
    1) How can I find a Live-CD linux distro that will support the hardware
    I mentioned above?

    You should download a promising candidate for actual testing. You won't
    know until you try. AFAIK, Slax and Knoppix are the leaders in LiveCDs.

    2) If I can't find one, how would I go about building such a Live-CD?

    It's not too hard, actually. You need to have a clear understanding of
    boot loaders, kernels, and root filesystems. I did several step by step
    newsgroup postings which detailed my progress along the way. My project
    is posted here: http://www.xmission.com/~ddmayne2/10.2-live

    The project was announced here:

    You can trace some of the links I referenced to see how the project
    evolved. The first version was short and sweet:

    The complexity comes in accepting input from the user. Also, Slax and
    Knoppix try to identify all of the hardware to make the user's experience
    as painless as possible. My project takes the opposite approach by
    assuming that the user knows which kernel modules and device names
    he intends to use.

    The reason that I'm asking these questions is because I could see a
    potential opportunity for people to be able to use such a Live-CD on
    their old laptops as an answer to Windows Media Center, crummy sound
    cards notwithstanding. As a last resort, I can burn an IS of an
    existing distro so that my laptop's poor little 4x CD-RM will be able
    to read it, and just bite the bullet and dual-boot.
    --
    Thanks for the information!
    --
    John Gardner

    Note: comments inline.
  • No.5 | | 415 bytes | |

    I would like to thank all of you for your responses. I was half-afraid
    of getting "RTFM, HTH!" answers, and none of these have been anywhere
    in that area.

    I shall indeed continue with this - I have downloaded and burned SLAX
    5.0.7b, and I plan to see what I can make work with this. I shall let
    you all know how things turn out!

    Again, thank you all!

    John Gardner

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