My web host has recently limited the total Cc: and Bcc: recipients to 4 when I
use sendmail from a Perl script in an attempt to control outgoing spam. They
tell me I can get around this by using Authen::SASL along with Net::SMTP, but
offer no clue about how to do this. Can anyone give me an example of how this
might work? I need to send mail to 7 or 8 people based on events at the website,
and most need to be CC-ed or Bcc-ed.
I also note that the download of Authen::SASL 2.09 contains scores of files,
about 122K in tar form. I will apparently have to have this in my web since my
web host says they don't have it installed. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Dave
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From: "David Ressler" <Perl (AT) nettenna (DOT) com>
To: "Perl List" <perl-win32-users (AT) listserv (DOT) ActiveState.com>
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 5:54 AM
Subject: Authen:SASL

My web host has recently limited the total Cc: and Bcc: recipients to 4
when I
use sendmail from a Perl script in an attempt to control outgoing spam.
They
tell me I can get around this by using Authen::SASL along with Net::SMTP,
but
offer no clue about how to do this. Can anyone give me an example of how
this
might work? I need to send mail to 7 or 8 people based on events at the
website,
and most need to be CC-ed or Bcc-ed.

Don't know how to use Authen::SASL, but couldn't you also get around the
problem by having the script loop through a cycle that connects to the mail
server, sends to 4 recipients, then disconnects ? The script would loop
through that cycle until mail has been sent to each of the intended
recipients.

I also note that the download of Authen::SASL 2.09 contains scores of
files,
about 122K in tar form. I will apparently have to have this in my web
since my
web host says they don't have it installed. Any suggestions?

This part is probably not so bad. It's simplest if you are able to get your
ISP's server to do that installation for you. , since the
Authen::SASL module is pure perl, it's just a matter of placing the required
'.pm' files into some location within your "user" directory and then making
them accessible with the appropriate 'use lib' directive at the start of the
script. Looks to me that the only Authen::SASL files you'll need to upload
are the '.pm' files within the 'lib' folder inside the tarball.

Cheers,
Rob

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Re: looping, 4 at a time - I have tried this, but for several reasons this is
undesirable, although it is a last-resort tactic.

Re: the Authen::SASL download - there are 20 .pm modules in the tarball:

Name Type Modified Size Ratio

ANNYMUS.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 1,817 0%

Base.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 841 0%

Builder.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 18,413 0%

Can.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 932 0%

CRAM_MD5.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 352 0%

CRAM_MD5.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 2,034 0%

DIGEST_MD5.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 4,223 0%

EXTERNAL.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 352 0%

EXTERNAL.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 1,735 0%

Fetch.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 2,444 0%

Include.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 410 0%

Install.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 3,788 0%

LGIN.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 1,936 0%

Makefile.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 3,733 0%

Metadata.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 4,944 0%

More.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 10,186 0%

Perl.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 2,236 0%

PLAIN.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 1,974 0%

SASL.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 2,452 0%

Win32.pm PM File 4/26/2005 6:34 AM 1,935 0%

Note there are 2 sets of pairs (same name, different size). Are they all needed?
If not, which?

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From: "David Ressler" <Perl (AT) nettenna (DOT) com>
To: "Perl List" <perl-win32-users (AT) listserv (DOT) ActiveState.com>
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 5:54 AM
Subject: Authen:SASL

My web host has recently limited the total Cc: and Bcc: recipients to 4
when I
use sendmail from a Perl script in an attempt to control outgoing spam.
They
tell me I can get around this by using Authen::SASL along with Net::SMTP,
but
offer no clue about how to do this. Can anyone give me an example of how
this
might work? I need to send mail to 7 or 8 people based on events at the
website,
and most need to be CC-ed or Bcc-ed.

Don't know how to use Authen::SASL, but couldn't you also get around the
problem by having the script loop through a cycle that connects to the mail
server, sends to 4 recipients, then disconnects ? The script would loop
through that cycle until mail has been sent to each of the intended
recipients.

I also note that the download of Authen::SASL 2.09 contains scores of
files,
about 122K in tar form. I will apparently have to have this in my web
since my
web host says they don't have it installed. Any suggestions?

This part is probably not so bad. It's simplest if you are able to get your
ISP's server to do that installation for you. , since the
Authen::SASL module is pure perl, it's just a matter of placing the required
'.pm' files into some location within your "user" directory and then making
them accessible with the appropriate 'use lib' directive at the start of the
script. Looks to me that the only Authen::SASL files you'll need to upload
are the '.pm' files within the 'lib' folder inside the tarball.

Cheers,
Rob

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Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: Authen:SASL

Re: looping, 4 at a time - I have tried this, but for several reasons this
is
undesirable, although it is a last-resort tactic.

Re: the Authen::SASL download - there are 20 .pm modules in the tarball:

I think it's only the modules listed under "modules" at
http://search.cpan.org/~gbarr/Authen-SASL-2.09/ that you'll need. And I
think you'll find that they are the modules in the 'lib' folder within the
cpan tarball. Looks to me that the other modules are just part of the normal
installation process and don't play any part in the functionality of the
module once the 'lib' modules have been installed.

Here's the list of what got installed when I installed that module (out of
curiosity):

Installing D:\perl58_M\site\5.8.7\lib\Authen\SASL.pm
Installing D:\perl58_M\site\5.8.7\lib\Authen\SASL.pod
Installing D:\perl58_M\site\5.8.7\lib\Authen\SASL\EXTERNAL.pm
Installing D:\perl58_M\site\5.8.7\lib\Authen\SASL\CRAM_MD5.pm
Installing D:\perl58_M\site\5.8.7\lib\Authen\SASL\Perl.pod
Installing D:\perl58_M\site\5.8.7\lib\Authen\SASL\Perl.pm
Installing D:\perl58_M\site\5.8.7\lib\Authen\SASL\Perl\EXTERN AL.pm
Installing D:\perl58_M\site\5.8.7\lib\Authen\SASL\Perl\LGIN.p m
Installing D:\perl58_M\site\5.8.7\lib\Authen\SASL\Perl\ANNYMU S.pm
Installing D:\perl58_M\site\5.8.7\lib\Authen\SASL\Perl\PLAIN. pm
Installing D:\perl58_M\site\5.8.7\lib\Authen\SASL\Perl\DIGEST _MD5.pm
Installing D:\perl58_M\site\5.8.7\lib\Authen\SASL\Perl\CRAM_M D5.pm

When you install them, you need to retain those paths from the "Authen\"
onwards.

I was thinking it would be a lot simpler for you if there was some
'perl -MCPAN ' command you could run on your isp's server that would
fetch and install the module into your chosen location for you. I don't know
if that's likely to be a viable option.

Cheers,
Rob

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