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    from Reuters:
    Computer maker Silicon Graphics filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
    protection after a round of restructuring measures failed, according to
    court papers filed on Monday.
    The company said it had been challenged by delays in introducing new
    technology, a focus on more specialized markets and more intense
    competition from larger rivals. Silicon Graphics filed for bankruptcy
    protection in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New
    York.
    Unwritten:
    "Credit for the bankruptcy goes to Rick Belluzzo and the other morons
    who thought Microsoft could write a server-level S that would scale
    past 4 processors."
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    <*sob*>
    We all knew it was coming
    It's ALL LINUX'S FAULT!!!
    :-)
    - Ethan
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    <*sob*>
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    5/8/06, Ethan 'Toole <ethan (AT) 757tech (DOT) netwrote:
    <*sob*>

    We all knew it was coming

    Yeah, I know, but it's still sad.

    It's ALL LINUX'S FAULT!!!

    No, it's SGI's fault fora number of reasons, including resting on
    their laurels instead of actually making some kind of attempt at
    keeping up with the rest of the industry. If they hadn't effectively
    abandoned IRIX and MIPS I'd still be using SGI hardware for all of my
    needs instead of going to Linux on my servers and desktop (though I
    recently made the switch to SX on the desktop with my new Intel 20"
    iMac and my 17" MacBook Pro is arriving today according to
    FedEx.com!).

    I've got 2 , 3 Indy's, 1 , 2 200's, and other
    miscellaneous older stuff (Crimson, Indigo, etc) sitting up in my
    office that spends most of its time powered off now.

    Caleb

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    Mon, 08 May 2006 12:57:04 -0400
    "Bryan Gurney" <arb_npx42 (AT) comcast (DOT) netwrote:

    In my opinion, the big bet on Itanium had a bit to do
    >with it. Intel had touted it as the Next Big Thing (TM),
    >and it fizzled. the three big X86 server makers (HP,
    >IBM, and Dell), the number of them producing Itanium
    >systems has gone down from three to one, and the only one
    >remaining is also the origin of the Itanium itself.

    Meanwhile, SGI was apparently trying to obsolete Irix on
    >MIPS in favor of Linux on Itanium. I don't think their
    >Itanium yearly sales broke over 1000 units; I'd like to
    >search for the 2005 total Itanium sales figures, but I'm
    >busy stripping shingles off of a roof right now (ugh).


    I guess if you force your existing customers to move from
    Irix/MIPS to Linux/IA64, all those customers are gonna
    review other offerings since they have been forced to
    move to begin with. This is something that the SGI honchos
    completelly missed, which sort of makes you wonder why
    they were made honchos to begin with. But seriously, if
    you force your customers to move a different platform, and
    your platform has not a single differenciating feature
    from the rest of the competing offerings out there and on
    top of that it is at least 2x as expensive and you
    expect to retain customers. You are pretty much calling
    your customers morons. And I know people who were insulted
    by the assumption that they were told to move from an
    expensive MIPS offering, to an equally expensive offering
    that was based on a free S and off the shelf components.
    For an laugh, I knew a person who took an SGI rep and
    showed him a webpage with an system from SUN, and
    basicaly asked the SGI rep why on heaven's he should buy
    the SGI prism he was being offered when he pretty much
    could buy almost 3 systems from SUN which were as
    powerful, if not more, than the system SGI was bringing to
    the table. Basically he asked the SGI rep: "you have 1
    minute to tell me a single reason why I should waste my
    time with you guys" I guess that sort of says it all. It
    is just the normal evolution of the markets, pretty much
    the same story was going on in the mid 80s and mini
    vendors when confronted with processor based server
    solutions and so history repeats itself.

    6 months from delisting from the NYSE to Chapter 11.
    Here's hoping that someone big and good picks them up
    >and does something meaningful with their IP, instead of
    >just pigeonholing it and collecting royalties. I'd like
    >to see Sun make a move, but it may be a while, because
    >all the players probably want the carcass to rot a little
    >bit more before swooping down.


    SGI has no IP left, they sodl everything they could. I
    think the only thing they have left is some of their
    interconnect technology, and even that is not really state
    of the art any more. So pretty much SGI is of no interest
    to anyone out there sad but true.

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    Mon, 08 May 2006 12:07:05 -0400, Caleb Shay <caleb (AT) webninja (DOT) comwrote:

    5/8/06, Ethan 'Toole <ethan (AT) 757tech (DOT) netwrote:
    ><*sob*>
    >>

    >We all knew it was coming
    >

    Yeah, I know, but it's still sad.
    >
    >>

    >It's ALL LINUX'S FAULT!!!
    >

    No, it's SGI's fault fora number of reasons, including resting on
    their laurels instead of actually making some kind of attempt at
    keeping up with the rest of the industry. If they hadn't effectively
    abandoned IRIX and MIPS I'd still be using SGI hardware for all of my
    needs instead of going to Linux on my servers and desktop (though I
    recently made the switch to SX on the desktop with my new Intel 20"
    iMac and my 17" MacBook Pro is arriving today according to
    FedEx.com!).

    In my opinion, the big bet on Itanium had a bit to do with it. Intel had touted it as the Next Big Thing (TM), and it fizzled. the three big X86 server makers (HP, IBM, and Dell), the number of them producing Itanium systems has gone down from three to one, and the only one remaining is also the origin of the Itanium itself. Meanwhile, SGI was apparently trying to obsolete Irix on MIPS in favor of Linux on Itanium. I don't think their Itanium yearly sales broke over 1000 units; I'd like to search for the 2005 total Itanium sales figures, but I'm busy stripping shingles off of a roof right now (ugh).

    6 months from delisting from the NYSE to Chapter 11. Here's hoping that someone big and good picks them up and does something meaningful with their IP, instead of just pigeonholing it and collecting royalties. I'd like to see Sun make a move, but it may be a while, because all the players probably want the carcass to rot a little bit more before swooping down.

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    No, it's SGI's fault fora number of reasons, including resting on
    their laurels instead of actually making some kind of attempt at
    keeping up with the rest of the industry. If they hadn't effectively
    abandoned IRIX and MIPS I'd still be using SGI hardware for all of my
    needs instead of going to Linux on my servers and desktop (though I
    recently made the switch to SX on the desktop with my new Intel 20"
    iMac and my 17" MacBook Pro is arriving today according to
    FedEx.com!).

    I was kidding.

    Yes, IRIX has fallen behind, and there are many reasons why SGI has
    failed while Sun has prospered.

    It all comes down to one thing.

    The logo change.

    (Kidding, again).

    I've got 2 , 3 Indy's, 1 , 2 200's, and other
    miscellaneous older stuff (Crimson, Indigo, etc) sitting up in my
    office that spends most of its time powered off now.
    Caleb

    I'm right up there with ya well, actually it's a matter of paying the
    power bill for the 2000 and /RE. I used to be a big SGI fanboy.

    The last SGI machine to add to my collection will be a 3800.
    - E

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    Mon, 08 May 2006 @ 10:32 -0400, Patrick Giagnocavo said:

    from Reuters:

    Computer maker Silicon Graphics filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
    protection after a round of restructuring measures failed, according to
    court papers filed on Monday.

    The company said it had been challenged by delays in introducing new
    technology, a focus on more specialized markets and more intense
    competition from larger rivals. Silicon Graphics filed for bankruptcy
    protection in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New
    York.

    That's just too bad. The company says it must shed $250 million but
    otherwise is operating normally.

    Unwritten:

    "Credit for the bankruptcy goes to Rick Belluzzo and the other morons
    who thought Microsoft could write a server-level S that would scale
    past 4 processors."

    Well, that's hardly their only mistake. I think the money spent on Itanic
    was a waste of time. Good effort, but it seems the money would have been
    better spent on faster MIPS CPUs, which customers actually wanted, especially
    existing customers

    Also, not everything is SGI's fault: the computer market overall is pretty
    dismal in a lot of ways, and certainly not as receptive to really great
    systems as it used to be.

    Something else: all of the UNIX vendors have sold overpriced machines and
    parts. They got away with it because they were often the only way to
    solve certain classes of problems.

    But as time goes on software is getting more portable and lower end
    systems much more powerful.

    If you are dependent on high margins, it is much harder to fight new
    competition.
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    Sat, 13 May 2006 @ 15:33 -0400, Carl R. Friend said:

    Didn't the honchos at DEC commit that same blunder back in 1983?

    Yes, but I also think it might not have mattered too much. The industry was
    rapidly ignoring anything that didn't fit the new 32-bit/8-bit byte/2's
    complement mold.

    I wonder sometimes if DEC had continued as they were if it would have
    mattered in the long run.

    *SME* of DEC and SGI misfortune is really not their fault. The industry is
    also guilty of some really bad decisions and directions.

    course, DEC didn't stop in 1983. Like charging 5 times the normal price for
    a Seagate hard drive whose sole advantage was their logo being on it.

    That's doesn't make customers feel very loyal either.

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