Michael Monnerie wrote:
Dienstag, 9. Mai 2006 16:18 Bowie Bailey wrote:
I've got per-user Bayes and most of my users
don't bother to train it.
Another reason for site-wide bayes, I'd say.
I've considered that, but it won't work in our setup. This box scans
our internal email as well as all of our customer's email. Since we
are in an entirely different line of business from our customers, what
we consider to be ham and spam will be quite different from theirs.
If I could train it on both sets, it might work, but I don't have
access to any of their emails for training.
Also, I really prefer a per-user bayes for our internal email since
there are various accounts that get a specific type of ham and work
very well with Bayes.

Dienstag, 9. Mai 2006 17:14 Bowie Bailey wrote:
I've considered that, but it won't work in our setup. *This box scans
our internal email as well as all of our customer's email. *Since we
are in an entirely different line of business from our customers,
what we consider to be ham and spam will be quite different from
theirs. If I could train it on both sets, it might work, but I don't
have access to any of their emails for training.

I believe that's a general mistake. I've got a server with many diff.
domains, some people working with china, others with brazil, many
different languages, and so on. With site wide bayes which is only
trained _by me_, I've not had a single complaint in years where bayes
was incorrect.

Real SPAM is really SPAM. For everybody. Those penis enlargements,
viagra and drug ads, and false job offers are really ever SPAM. And if
somebody wants to get those info about penis enlargement, he should
just look in his SPAM folder, it's not getting deleted anyway.

If you are sane and try to not make mistakes with bayes, it works
phantastic. I've got about 6.000 spam & ham, and everyday I feed the
new SPAM to bayes for learning.

Try it: keep some real SPAM, use site-wide bayes without auto-learn.
Feed at least 200 spam & ham to bayes, and train it every day. You will
be happy.

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