Well I was cruising in Gopher space and came across a png that S/2
tried to display in the wave player so I thought I'd try Seamonkey
(Mozilla/5.0 (S/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20051110
SeaMonkey/1.5a).
Tried Veronica 2 (gopher://gopher.floodgab.com/) which displays fine in
S/2's gopher client. get an index header. Then I tried
gopher://gopher.jbother.org/ which did display then following the
screenshot link and clicking on an image Seamonkey would display the
name of the image and sit there with the page loading line and throbber
throbbing but never load the image.
Can anyone else try these sites in various different versions? You can
use the S/2 Gopher client for reference (don't forget to prune the
gopher://)
Dave

Sir:

Dave Yeo wrote:
Well I was cruising in Gopher space and came across a png that S/2
tried to display in the wave player so I thought I'd try Seamonkey
(Mozilla/5.0 (S/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20051110
SeaMonkey/1.5a).
Tried Veronica 2 (gopher://gopher.floodgab.com/) which displays fine in
S/2's gopher client. get an index header. Then I tried
gopher://gopher.jbother.org/ which did display then following the
screenshot link and clicking on an image Seamonkey would display the
name of the image and sit there with the page loading line and throbber
throbbing but never load the image.
Can anyone else try these sites in various different versions? You can
use the S/2 Gopher client for reference (don't forget to prune the
gopher://)

Can you look at the source code for the gopher page to see if there is
some embelishment on the plain png-jpg-gif image? Netscape would
display Gopher pages. Try Netscape 4.61.

11/11/2005 06:29 pm, Dave Yeo thus wrote :
Well I was cruising in Gopher space

Careful, you're dating yourself, my friend (well, as most of us here do
indeed know Gopher fairly well, I guess you've dated us all!!) ;-)

<snip>

Tried Veronica 2 (gopher://gopher.floodgab.com/) which displays fine in
S/2's gopher client. get an index header.

Same here with SM 2005110805.

<snip>

gopher://gopher.jbother.org/ which did display then following the
screenshot link and clicking on an image Seamonkey would display the
name of the image and sit there with the page loading line and throbber
throbbing but never load the image.

I don't get the ever-throbbing throbber, just the name of the image in a
completed page (throbber stops). I've tried this with and without proxy
services (I usually use Squid), but I don't think that Squid proxies
gopher (I'd have to check).

William L. Hartzell wrote:
Sir:

Dave Yeo wrote:
>Well I was cruising in Gopher space and came across a png that S/2
>tried to display in the wave player so I thought I'd try Seamonkey
>(Mozilla/5.0 (S/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20051110
>SeaMonkey/1.5a).
>Tried Veronica 2 (gopher://gopher.floodgab.com/) which displays fine
>in S/2's gopher client. get an index header. Then I tried
>gopher://gopher.jbother.org/ which did display then following the
>screenshot link and clicking on an image Seamonkey would display the
>name of the image and sit there with the page loading line and
>throbber throbbing but never load the image.
>Can anyone else try these sites in various different versions? You
>can use the S/2 Gopher client for reference (don't forget to prune
>the gopher://)
>
>
Can you look at the source code for the gopher page to see if there is
some embelishment on the plain png-jpg-gif image? Netscape
would display Gopher pages. Try Netscape 4.61.
Tried NS4.61 on veronica 2, immediately got cannot locate server error.
Going to a page on the server did work.
Going to the other page did work though the graphics only got a broken
image icon. Loading the source in NS4.61 shows href type of html.
Looking at the source on Seamonkey shows what I imagine is normal gopher
code.
Dave

Dave Yeo wrote:
Well I was cruising in Gopher space and came across a png that S/2
tried to display in the wave player so I thought I'd try Seamonkey
(Mozilla/5.0 (S/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20051110
SeaMonkey/1.5a).
Tried Veronica 2 (gopher://gopher.floodgab.com/) which displays fine
in S/2's gopher client. get an index header. Then I tried
gopher://gopher.jbother.org/ which did display then following the
screenshot link and clicking on an image Seamonkey would display the
name of the image and sit there with the page loading line and
throbber throbbing but never load the image.
Can anyone else try these sites in various different versions? You can
use the S/2 Gopher client for reference (don't forget to prune the
gopher://)
Dave

Interestingly middle-clicking on a link at
(the URL field,
gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1) displays the gopher page perfectly yet
any way I've tried to manually enter it has the above results.
Definitely seems like a bug.
Dave

Sir:

Dave Yeo wrote:
Dave Yeo wrote:

>Well I was cruising in Gopher space and came across a png that S/2
>tried to display in the wave player so I thought I'd try Seamonkey
>(Mozilla/5.0 (S/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20051110
>SeaMonkey/1.5a).
>Tried Veronica 2 (gopher://gopher.floodgab.com/) which displays fine
>in S/2's gopher client. get an index header. Then I tried
>gopher://gopher.jbother.org/ which did display then following the
>screenshot link and clicking on an image Seamonkey would display the
>name of the image and sit there with the page loading line and
>throbber throbbing but never load the image.
>Can anyone else try these sites in various different versions? You can
>use the S/2 Gopher client for reference (don't forget to prune the
>gopher://)
>Dave
>>
Interestingly middle-clicking on a link at
(the URL field,
gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1) displays the gopher page perfectly yet
any way I've tried to manually enter it has the above results.
Definitely seems like a bug.

I see mentioned talk about a patch to Mozilla that was checked in before
Mozilla 1.7.4 was released. But since 1.7.x branch does not get
anything except security fixes, one would have to be using SeaMonkey or
Firefox 1.5 to benefit from the patch. than the i itemtype patch,
Mozilla 1.7.12 works on that site. When SeaMonkey completes its
compile, I'll check it with the latest trunk. , it finished as I
wrote the previous sentence. I see no difference in the appearence of
the gopher page on that site and I tried veronica2 in search for
videoLAN, got the home page of it with lists of documents to read: Very
good.
PS. Was that a typo floodgab.com above without a page number?

William L. Hartzell wrote:
Sir:

Dave Yeo wrote:
>Dave Yeo wrote:
>>
Well I was cruising in Gopher space and came across a png that S/2
tried to display in the wave player so I thought I'd try Seamonkey
(Mozilla/5.0 (S/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20051110
SeaMonkey/1.5a).
Tried Veronica 2 (gopher://gopher.floodgab.com/) which displays fine
in S/2's gopher client. get an index header. Then I tried
gopher://gopher.jbother.org/ which did display then following the
screenshot link and clicking on an image Seamonkey would display the
name of the image and sit there with the page loading line and
throbber throbbing but never load the image.
Can anyone else try these sites in various different versions? You
can use the S/2 Gopher client for reference (don't forget to prune
the gopher://)
Dave

>Interestingly middle-clicking on a link at
>(the URL field,
>gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1) displays the gopher page perfectly
>yet any way I've tried to manually enter it has the above results.
>Definitely seems like a bug.
>
I see mentioned talk about a patch to Mozilla that was checked in
before Mozilla 1.7.4 was released. But since 1.7.x branch does not
get anything except security fixes, one would have to be using
SeaMonkey or Firefox 1.5 to benefit from the patch. than the i
itemtype patch, Mozilla 1.7.12 works on that site. When SeaMonkey
completes its compile, I'll check it with the latest trunk. , it
finished as I wrote the previous sentence. I see no difference in the
appearence of the gopher page on that site and I tried veronica2 in
search for videoLAN, got the home page of it with lists of documents
to read: Very good.
PS. Was that a typo floodgab.com above without a page number?
No, no typo, that is the address that the Gopher client uses, I found
the one on the bugzilla page.
Interestingly the page loads fine in a Firefox that I built in the
middle of I just built a new Firefox and am getting exactly the
same behaviour as with Seamonkey. Seems a strange bug where a page loads
fine from link but not from entering the URL in the address bar.
I'd also say the failure to display the images is a different bug though
I'm not sure how gopher is supposed to handle the images. I know the
S/2 gopher client has a list of types and programs to handle them and
it just passes of whatever it can't understand so images just display in
picture viewer.
Dave

Sir:

Michael Stan wrote:
Dave Yeo wrote:

>Well I was cruising in Gopher space and came across a png that S/2
>tried to display in the wave player so I thought I'd try Seamonkey
>(Mozilla/5.0 (S/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20051110
>SeaMonkey/1.5a).
>Tried Veronica 2 (gopher://gopher.floodgab.com/) which displays fine
>in S/2's gopher client. get an index header. Then I tried
>gopher://gopher.jbother.org/ which did display then following the
>screenshot link and clicking on an image Seamonkey would display the
>name of the image and sit there with the page loading line and
>throbber throbbing but never load the image.
>Can anyone else try these sites in various different versions? You can
>use the S/2 Gopher client for reference (don't forget to prune the
>gopher://)
>Dave
>>

Mozilla 1.7.12, when I click the first image, tells me:
The image "" cannot
be dispalyed, because it contains errors.

Interesting, I couldn't copy and paste the error message (I had to type
it ). I guess Mozilla treats it as a jpg. Instead it offers me the
options to save image.

The same for the subsequent pngs.

None of the image sources are offered as options for viewing.

The answers is instantaneous. It looks to me Mozilla does not download
anything, it gets rejected right away by the server. Nothing when I ask
for the image to be saved. I shortly see the progress dialog and then
nothing in destination folder.

Any chance you running this with IPtrace running? It may be that the
handshake between them is broken, ie. protocol error? I've seen
mentioned Gopher+ protocol.

Sir:

Dave Yeo wrote:
Well I was cruising in Gopher space and came across a png that S/2
tried to display in the wave player so I thought I'd try Seamonkey
(Mozilla/5.0 (S/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20051110
SeaMonkey/1.5a).
Tried Veronica 2 (gopher://gopher.floodgab.com/) which displays fine in
S/2's gopher client. get an index header. Then I tried
gopher://gopher.jbother.org/ which did display then following the
screenshot link and clicking on an image Seamonkey would display the
name of the image and sit there with the page loading line and throbber
throbbing but never load the image.
Can anyone else try these sites in various different versions? You can
use the S/2 Gopher client for reference (don't forget to prune the
gopher://)

I've noticed that there are several Gopher files that changed over this
weekend. Did you check in some fixes?

William L. Hartzell wrote:
Sir:

Dave Yeo wrote:
>Well I was cruising in Gopher space and came across a png that S/2
>tried to display in the wave player so I thought I'd try Seamonkey
>(Mozilla/5.0 (S/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20051110
>SeaMonkey/1.5a).
>Tried Veronica 2 (gopher://gopher.floodgab.com/) which displays fine
>in S/2's gopher client. get an index header. Then I tried
>gopher://gopher.jbother.org/ which did display then following the
>screenshot link and clicking on an image Seamonkey would display the
>name of the image and sit there with the page loading line and
>throbber throbbing but never load the image.
>Can anyone else try these sites in various different versions? You
>can use the S/2 Gopher client for reference (don't forget to prune
>the gopher://)
>
I've noticed that there are several Gopher files that changed over
this weekend. Did you check in some fixes?
Me? , I sure don't have CVS access. At that I haven't even filed a bug,
wiating to see if it fixes itself. Should have a new version to test
pretty quick now :).
The checkins were related to bug 312760 which is to make all network
protocols inherit from one class
Dave

William L. Hartzell wrote:
Sir:

Michael Stan wrote:
>Dave Yeo wrote:
>>
Well I was cruising in Gopher space and came across a png that S/2
tried to display in the wave player so I thought I'd try Seamonkey
(Mozilla/5.0 (S/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20051110
SeaMonkey/1.5a).
Tried Veronica 2 (gopher://gopher.floodgab.com/) which displays fine
in S/2's gopher client. get an index header. Then I tried
gopher://gopher.jbother.org/ which did display then following the
screenshot link and clicking on an image Seamonkey would display the
name of the image and sit there with the page loading line and
throbber throbbing but never load the image.
Can anyone else try these sites in various different versions? You
can use the S/2 Gopher client for reference (don't forget to prune
the gopher://)
Dave

>>
>Mozilla 1.7.12, when I click the first image, tells me:
>The image ""
>cannot be dispalyed, because it contains errors.
>>
>Interesting, I couldn't copy and paste the error message (I had to
>type it ). I guess Mozilla treats it as a jpg. Instead it offers me
>the options to save image.
>>
>The same for the subsequent pngs.
>>
>None of the image sources are offered as options for viewing.
>>
>The answers is instantaneous. It looks to me Mozilla does not
>download anything, it gets rejected right away by the server. Nothing
>when I ask for the image to be saved. I shortly see the progress
>dialog and then nothing in destination folder.
>>
>
Any chance you running this with IPtrace running? It may be that the
handshake between them is broken, ie. protocol error? I've seen
mentioned Gopher+ protocol.
No, by Gopher+ protocol they mean something like the difference between
html 1 and html 1.1. Gopher+ is just an extension to Gopher
Dave

Isaac Leung wrote:
When I try the links in Mozilla 1.7.12, it tells me the PNG's are
broken and hence won't display it.

I don't know about Gopher/2. my system it seems a bit busted. I can
go to a specific directory (i.e. I open up "Specify Gopher Item" and
enter "jbother.org" and then path as "screenshot), but it refuses to
go to root menu, always returns error. (Any tips on fixing this?)

At any rate, the pictures don't pop up either. Image viewer comes up
as a blank (I have PNG codec installed).
--
Isaac

Well it turns out those images are actually empty so I guess that is why
they don't display. I got sidetracked by gopher/2 loading the sound
player for the pngs which of course failed.
Also discovered that wget doesn't handle gopher :)
Don't know what might be wrong with your gopher/2, works good here
Dave