I am looking to extend a zope portal to allow authenticated users to
upload/download files the idea being to support a shared drive
containing various files available over HTTPS and available anywhere
there is web-access. Ideally this notional 'web-drive' should be
accessible using Windows "Web Folders" -but I'd also like for it to
support ACL-style permissions with respect to file-access by other
authenticated users.
Are there any "products" which already address this requirement?
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Take a look at Plone Desktop from enfold systems

Sep 14, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Steve wrote:

I am looking to extend a zope portal to allow authenticated users to
upload/download files the idea being to support a shared drive
containing various files available over HTTPS and available anywhere
there is web-access. Ideally this notional 'web-drive' should be
accessible using Windows "Web Folders" -but I'd also like for it to
support ACL-style permissions with respect to file-access by other
authenticated users.

Are there any "products" which already address this requirement?
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K, well, Zope works out of the box with DAV clients, so

(and please keep conversations on the list)
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Sep 14, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Steve wrote:

Chris McDonough wrote:
>Take a look at Plone Desktop from enfold systems
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Thanks for the suggestion that's interesting, but far more involved
than what I'm aiming for For example, I definitely don't want to
require any special client software, and a big feature of the Plone
Desktop seems to be integration with the Win32 file-system - whereas I
don't need that per-se any user-friendly UI would suit me just
fine.

I guess I might have better described that I what this to be a bit
like
an https based ftp-site with file uploads and downloads etc a
simple, secure mechanism for exchange of arbitrary files between users
of the portal I don't really need or want content-management per-
se

Steve
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Chris McDonough wrote:
K, well, Zope works out of the box with DAV clients, so
I've read that too but (maybe I'm just being dumb here) I can't
connect to my zope server via the "Add Network Place" wizard just by
specifying a URL for my zope-server which my web-browser accesses fine.
Can you point me at a how-to? How does this integrate with
permissions? Will I need a web-based interaction to set-up ACLs for files?

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How does it not work?

Webfolders doesn't allow setting permissions on folders or files on a
share. You'll need to do this through Zope's security interface via
a browser.

I suspect the situation is this: you will likely need a need a
content management or a fat client or both if you want users to be
able to manage security via a "normal" (nothing really normal about
it, IM, but) Explorer window.

Zope has a completely different security model than either UNIX or
Windows, so something needs to map its notion of security to the
client's. Plain-old-webfolders won't help here.

I wonder why you don't just use a Windows share here? What does Zope
give you that it wouldn't in this case?
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Sep 14, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Steve wrote:

Chris McDonough wrote:
>K, well, Zope works out of the box with DAV clients, so
I've read that too but (maybe I'm just being dumb here) I can't
connect to my zope server via the "Add Network Place" wizard just by
specifying a URL for my zope-server which my web-browser accesses
fine.
Can you point me at a how-to? How does this integrate with
permissions? Will I need a web-based interaction to set-up ACLs
for files?
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Chris McDonough wrote:
How does it not work?
I enter an URL which would render the index_html method as a "Network
Place" and all I get is an error message:

"The folder you entered does not appear to be valid. Please choose
another."
Webfolders doesn't allow setting permissions on folders or files on a
share. You'll need to do this through Zope's security interface via a
browser.
I assumed as much if I can find a "product" (or other pre-cooked
near-solution) for this then that would be great. :-)
I suspect the situation is this: you will likely need a need a content
management or a fat client or both if you want users to be able to
manage security via a "normal" (nothing really normal about it, IM,
but) Explorer window.
I don't absolutely need an "explorer window" - but a drag-n-drop
interface is desirable - and Windows it the most likely remote S.
Zope has a completely different security model than either UNIX or
Windows, so something needs to map its notion of security to the
client's. Plain-old-webfolders won't help here.
Fair enough - though I will need to manage this aspect of the solution
somehow.
I wonder why you don't just use a Windows share here? What does Zope
give you that it wouldn't in this case?
There are several reasons I don't want to use a windows shared folder
including:

* I need to support access to the web-share through corporate
web-proxies which only allow HTTP/HTTPS access to the outside world.
* Access to the web-share should be supported even from non-MS platforms.
* No need to expose a Windows/SAMBA port to the internet at large
(including the myriad security issues that would incur.)
* Administration only necessary for users of the portal - no separate
system for users of the "web-drive".
* No need to install software on remote sites to access a private
virtual network.

I'm sure there are other advantages too

Steve

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