For all the hype with using Robert Fripp on Vista system sounds, the
changes are pretty small and underwhelming to me.
Thoughts on system sounds for 4?
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Friday 10 November 2006 14:30, Sebastian K wrote:
Friday 10 November 2006 05:43, Wade wrote:
Thoughts on system sounds for 4?

Nuno 'showed' me some sound that can be used for KDE4. I guess he'll be
posting that separately once it's sufficiently stable.

Imho, being that its KDE 4, and ushering in a new era in the Linux Desktop, I
would think 5.1 audio (properly routed - I have yet to figure out precisely
how mixing will be handled) would be the way to go. Unfortunately, it seems
that Vorbis 5.1 encoded files don't do channel coupling yet.

Also, I'm not entirely sure how mixing is being handled by default. I'm
assuming kmix will still be there - but I am curious about frequency routing.

Anyway, I'm going T on that part of it. I'd be happy to help, as I should
finish my setup shortly after I move, but I'd be interested in input for
sounds - I would lean towards something musical, but soft. I know I've been
turned off by obnoxious and ever-increasing volume from startup sounds
before. Any opinions on this?
-Joseph M. Gaffney aka CuCullin

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11/10/06, Joseph M. Gaffney <cucullin (AT) wtfisthat (DOT) netwrote:
Friday 10 November 2006 14:30, Sebastian K wrote:
Friday 10 November 2006 05:43, Wade wrote:
Thoughts on system sounds for 4?

Nuno 'showed' me some sound that can be used for KDE4. I guess he'll be
posting that separately once it's sufficiently stable.

Imho, being that its KDE 4, and ushering in a new era in the Linux Desktop, I
would think 5.1 audio (properly routed - I have yet to figure out precisely
how mixing will be handled) would be the way to go. Unfortunately, it seems
that Vorbis 5.1 encoded files don't do channel coupling yet.

Right, there are technical expectations as well as functional expectations.

Technically, I don't have the capacity to talk about sampling rates and such.

Functionally, I expect 4 "Hell yeah" opinions:

Team - Hell yeah, these sounds perfectly compliment our design.

MWG - Hell yeah, these are professionally done and fit the branding/packaging.

HCI WG - Hell yeah, these are very appropriate and sensible.

Users during testing - Hell yeah, I can listen to these sounds day
after day and not go insane.

Also, I'm not entirely sure how mixing is being handled by default. I'm
assuming kmix will still be there - but I am curious about frequency routing.

Anyway, I'm going T on that part of it. I'd be happy to help, as I should
finish my setup shortly after I move, but I'd be interested in input for
sounds - I would lean towards something musical, but soft. I know I've been
turned off by obnoxious and ever-increasing volume from startup sounds
before. Any opinions on this?

-Joseph M. Gaffney aka CuCullin

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Friday 10 November 2006 16:15, Sebastian K wrote:
Friday 10 November 2006 21:12, Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
Friday 10 November 2006 14:30, Sebastian K wrote:
Friday 10 November 2006 05:43, Wade wrote:
Thoughts on system sounds for 4?

Nuno 'showed' me some sound that can be used for KDE4. I guess he'll be
posting that separately once it's sufficiently stable.

Imho, being that its KDE 4, and ushering in a new era in the Linux
Desktop, I would think 5.1 audio (properly routed - I have yet to figure
out precisely how mixing will be handled) would be the way to go.
Unfortunately, it seems that Vorbis 5.1 encoded files don't do channel
coupling yet.

5.1 will be a problem for most laptops.

Thats why I have some concerns regarding mixing. Most laptops can do 5.1, but
most people with laptops are listening vie headphones or built in speakers.
I would assume the playback engine would mix it down appropriately, but I
couldn't say for sure - haven't tried it. Now I think I should :)

Also, I'm not entirely sure how mixing is being handled by default. I'm
assuming kmix will still be there - but I am curious about frequency
routing.

Anyway, I'm going T on that part of it. I'd be happy to help, as I
should finish my setup shortly after I move, but I'd be interested in
input for sounds - I would lean towards something musical, but soft. I
know I've been turned off by obnoxious and ever-increasing volume from
startup sounds before. Any opinions on this?

Exactly! (And entertaining as hell)
-Joseph M. Gaffney aka CuCullin

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Friday 10 November 2006 15:02, Adriaan de Groot wrote:
Friday 10 November 2006 20:30, Sebastian K wrote:
Friday 10 November 2006 05:43, Wade wrote:
Thoughts on system sounds for 4?

Nuno 'showed' me some sound that can be used for KDE4. I guess he'll be
posting that separately once it's sufficiently stable.

It's time to drag up the idea of getting as many KDE developers as possible
to say "KDE" into a mike; maybe even "I'm Adriaan de Groot and I'm a KDE
developer". That gives a human voice to the development effort. But it
would require some concerted effort to collect those names and someone --
who did the konqcasts for akademy in the end? -- to post-process. But I'm
willing to buy a sound record like the one Aaron had in to start the
process in Nijmegen.

I did the final clean up on that. If this is going to be done, it'd be
important to start off right. I could set up a quick overview of cheap
hardware that should be used, and some basic settings - might be able to
harass some manufacturers into giving me some hardware to use, but no
promises on that part of it.
-Joseph M. Gaffney

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Friday 10 November 2006 16:40, Alexander Neundorf wrote:
Friday 10 November 2006 21:12, Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
Imho, being that its KDE 4, and ushering in a new era in the Linux
Desktop, I would think 5.1 audio (properly routed

For simple system notifications ?
That'd be overkill IMH

Bye
Alex

Actually I was thinking startup sound, not general system notifications.
-Joseph M. Gaffney aka CuCullin

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Friday 10 November 2006 17:09, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
I can bring an USB Preamp and two stage mikes to the marketing meeting, if
that helps.

It's an M-Audio USB Preamp and sadly doesn't work perfectly with Linux,
though

Best wishes,
Arne

Fast Track / MobilePre or some such?

Regardless, any decent audio chain would be nice :)
-Joseph M. Gaffney aka CuCullin

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Friday 10 November 2006 17:00, Adriaan de Groot wrote:
Friday 10 November 2006 22:49, Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
I did the final clean up on that. If this is going to be done, it'd be
important to start off right. I could set up a quick overview of cheap
hardware that should be used,

Aaron had a fairly inexpensive Creative jobby. It was yellow and small,
that's all I remember. I have a decent 3-pole singing mike from back when I
did some band work, but it's hardly something I can drag around everywhere.
I was thinking stuff along the lines of a Muvo TX.

I know the money isn't there, but I'd prefer something like the M-Audio
MicroTrack 24/96. To give you an idea, even that (at about $500 iirc) isn't
all that great for editing, just decent - the Sony PCM-D1 is a massive
improvement (mostly because changes while recording on the microtrack cause
some noise), but that goes for about $2k

Now I have one for work, and I'm supposed to get another. If it would be sent
around to a few places over a short period, once its in thats an option.
As long as it gets back to me of course :)

However, a simple 2 to 4 track mixer/recorder (to cf or some such) and an
inexpensive yet decent mic (think shure sm57) might come in for less. I'll
consider a few options.
-Joseph M. Gaffney aka CuCullin

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Friday 10 November 2006 21:18, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
El Viernes 10 Noviembre 2006 23:30, Joseph M. Gaffney :
Friday 10 November 2006 17:09, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
Fast Track / MobilePre or some such?

MobilePre.

I got it for recording, along with two EV N/D767a mikes and two midqual
room microphones.

Ah - nice - I like those EV's, they tend to have a good tone, and do well with
plosives.

As an aside, if you can find them for a decent price, check out - I
have an MK012 matched pair, and an MK319. I love the sound, very warm,
especially coming through a nice tube mic pre :)

But I'll need someone to operate a laptop, as I can't work one.

Regardless, any decent audio chain would be nice :)

I hope it helps!

Arne

I'm sure it will! My editing is limited until I finish my move, but thats
Wednesday. After that, I'm actually buying some new hardware - specifically
for A/V :D So, no rush on things, and I think theres plenty of time to
tweak.
-Joseph M. Gaffney aka CuCullin

PS: Sleep!

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