I am suggesting that we all cooperate and produce a "Code of Conduct" for participating on the Full Disclosure mailing list.
Suggested start :-
1) No Swearing
2) No slagging others off
3) No selling of exploits and vulnerabilities
Regards,
Aaron
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Aaron Gray wrote:
I am suggesting that we all cooperate and produce a "Code of Conduct"
for participating on the Full Disclosure mailing list.

Suggested start :-
1) No Swearing
2) No slagging others off
3) No selling of exploits and vulnerabilities

4) Rename it "SecurityFocus FD"

Your number 2 is half the fun of this list. It makes people think twice
before posting something senseless. Though it isn't 100% effective, it
is better than having a paid moderator deleting messages.

Put in a swear filter. Net Nanny or something.

I do appreciate your goal, however this is a dirty and nasty arena. It
was designed to be an alternative to the cleansed and censored corporate
controlled lists.

I must say, FD is still friendlier than the underground BBSs of the 80's
& 90's. Good times.

Randal T. Rioux | Procyon Labs
IT Security R&D and Consulting
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Physical: DC / Baltimore
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5/7/06, Aaron Gray <angray (AT) beeb (DOT) netwrote:

I am suggesting that we all cooperate and produce a "Code of Conduct" for
participating on the Full Disclosure mailing list.

Suggested start :-

1) No Swearing
2) No slagging others off
3) No selling of exploits and vulnerabilities

Lets add:

4) No Cross-site scripting and SQL injection advisories.

We get the picture, theres 100 million flaws for
guestbooks/bulletinboards and other unheard of vendor products. Its
time to kill the cross-site scripting and sql injection spam created
by copy & paste script kids. Let the lame Securityfocus Bugtraq
mailing list get submitted with that B*S from now on.

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lol you are the one who only posts XSS, then finally get off this list kid.
What did you ever post other than your lame XSS ? nothing so you can
aswell finally unsubscribe as you told us 3-4 times ago, but you never did.
We would enjoy seeing you unsubscribed. This is probably the last
Mailinglist where you havent been banned yet. You just flame Securityfocus,
because you are pissed that they don't allow you to post your nonsense.

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From: "n3td3v" <n3td3v (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
To: <full-disclosure (AT) lists (DOT) grok.org.uk>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full Disclosure "Code of conduct"

5/7/06, Aaron Gray <angray (AT) beeb (DOT) netwrote:

I am suggesting that we all cooperate and produce a "Code of Conduct" for
participating on the Full Disclosure mailing list.

Suggested start :-

1) No Swearing
2) No slagging others off
3) No selling of exploits and vulnerabilities

Lets add:

4) No Cross-site scripting and SQL injection advisories.

We get the picture, theres 100 million flaws for
guestbooks/bulletinboards and other unheard of vendor products. Its
time to kill the cross-site scripting and sql injection spam created
by copy & paste script kids. Let the lame Securityfocus Bugtraq
mailing list get submitted with that B*S from now on.

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Most readers expect 2 things from this list:
INFRMATIN & ENTERTAINMENT.
Your post was neither informational nor entertaining. I suggest YU
stay ontopic.

2006/5/7, Aaron Gray <angray (AT) beeb (DOT) net>:

I am suggesting that we all cooperate and produce a "Code of Conduct" for
participating on the Full Disclosure mailing list.

Suggested start :-

1) No Swearing
2) No slagging others off
3) No selling of exploits and vulnerabilities

Regards,

Aaron
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5/7/06, GroundZero Security <fd (AT) g-0 (DOT) orgwrote:
lol you are the one who only posts XSS,

Yes, I post Google and Yahoo vuln, far from being an unheard of
vendor. Did you read my terms of agreement? I said no more guestbooks
and bulletinboard x-site scripting from unheard of vendor products.
You knew what I said anyway, you're just trying to bait the list with
your bulls*it.

Regards,

n3td3v

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5/7/06, GroundZero Security <fd (AT) g-0 (DOT) orgwrote:
You just flame Securityfocus,
because you are pissed

No, I called them lame because all thats on Securityfocus Bugtraq
nowadays is x-site scripting spam for unheard of vendor products, like
guestbooks and bulletinboards.

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5/7/06, lee.e.rian (AT) census (DOT) gov <lee.e.rian (AT) census (DOT) govwrote:
There aren't that many people that keep responding to *those* people - and
I've noticed they aren't worth listening to either.

I second that.

Steph

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5/7/06, lee.e.rian (AT) census (DOT) gov <lee.e.rian (AT) census (DOT) govwrote:
>You would have to agree that Full Disclosure is a rather different (if
>not alternate) mailing list. So one of the things i would do would be
>using your favourite email client filters to reduce the noise and make
>sure you won't read from specific people anymore, i've done so :)
>
What do you do about the replies to that persons posts from others ?

Do you filter them as well ?

Yes.

There aren't that many people that keep responding to *those* people - and
I've noticed they aren't worth listening to either.

I find the folks who talk about filtering individuals actually turn
out to be more lame than the folks they were complaining about.
Usually the folks complaining about the list have never contributed in
any form to the list whatsoever. For me I think the folks people talk
about filtering offer a better insight into whats going on than nobody
users who complain and ask about content filtering. Its been many a
time folks on this list have complained about me, then a couple of
days later they post a lame question onto the mailing list. To be
honest if you're having personal problems with the content of any list
then perhaps you should be unsubscribing. To me, filtering anyone is a
great injustice to yourself and others around your work place.
Professionals, good ones, don't filter anyone around here, they want
to see the full-picture landscape of whats going on and whats being
said, even the lame baited comments seen lots around unmoderated
international communications networks like Full-Disclosure.

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5/7/06, Aaron Gray <angray (AT) beeb (DOT) netwrote:

I am suggesting that we all cooperate and produce a "Code of Conduct" for
participating on the Full Disclosure mailing list.

You would have to agree that Full Disclosure is a rather different (if
not alternate) mailing list. So one of the things i would do would be
using your favourite email client filters to reduce the noise and make
sure you won't read from specific people anymore, i've done so :)

Steph

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>You would have to agree that Full Disclosure is a rather different (if
>not alternate) mailing list. So one of the things i would do would be
>using your favourite email client filters to reduce the noise and make
>sure you won't read from specific people anymore, i've done so :)

What do you do about the replies to that persons posts from others ?

Do you filter them as well ?

Regards,

Aaron

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Bwing a old time from the ARPANET and dare I say PDP-10 days something
is kind of baffling to me. That is it seems that many people just won'r
use private person to person email for much of anything. This baffles me
to no end. I mean many a time I might just like to say something to afew
people and not blast it to a whole list. Whether it is something like
", the kids I teach meteorology too are taking more of my time that
they did last months so I am going to spend less time on say computer
security and operating sytstems issues or Candaian Politics , but I'll
get back to it as soon as I can. I don't think I am that impressive a
conrtributor that I should broadcast it to the whole list. But it seems
if I send private messages around its like people ignore it. And being
aware of spam assasin and vizazzodado's razor and a all that stuff I use
prose that won't un afould of those things still people seem to act
sometimes as if all private mail is spam or evgil lurking pedophiles or
whatve and never check their priovate email. A couple of people on a
Candian Poli fgeoup told me they just ignore theuir inbox Is trhis
becoming a common practice. I know it isn;t so here, because people at
least give me kindness of a ereply. The same witgh medical groups. But I
do say Political Interest and Intelligence do sometimes seem inversely
related,

Cute though. Anyone with lots of spare time even think of writing
"TRLL-BT" that would float around acting like a troll and seeing how
many people would respond to it and what the reponses would be like. I
was wondiring if someone in some place was going to write uo a "lonely
girl bot that tried to get naive lonely guys to wire money bu Western
Union to Nigeria. well humans are a strange lot.

Have FUn,
Sends Steve

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GroundZero Security wrote:

>>The trolls arent't the problem, it's the retarded morons who keep responding to and arguing with them.
>
>>
>
>So that means you too are a retarded moron ?
>
>
Message
>From: "Anders B Jansson" <hdw (AT) kallisti (DOT) se>
>To: "Full Disclosure" <full-disclosure (AT) lists (DOT) grok.org.uk>
>Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full Disclosure "Code of conduct"
>
>

>
>>Aaron Gray wrote:
>
>>
I am suggesting that we all cooperate and produce a "Code of Conduct"
for participating on the Full Disclosure mailing list.
Suggested start :-
1) No Swearing
2) No slagging others off
3) No selling of exploits and vulnerabilities


>>I have a much better list.
>>1. Use what ever ****ing language you want.
>>2. Shut the **** up unless you have something to contribute with.
>>3. DN'T FEED THE TRLLS.
>>
>>If someone posts something that you think sucks, then _mail that person_, you don't have to mail the list to state this.
>>If you're right ,we already know, if you're wrong, you're just adding to the noise.
>>
>>The trolls arent't the problem, it's the retarded morons who keep responding to and arguing with them.

>>// hdw
>>
>>
>>Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
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>Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
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Steve Kudlak wrote:

Bwing a old time from the ARPANET and dare I say PDP-10 days something
is kind of baffling to me. That is it seems that many people just
won'r use private person to person email for much of anything. This
baffles me to no end.

It's actually quite simple. It's human nature.

Why tar and feather someone in private when you can do so in public?
It's an unprofessional response, but one that the human race has been
utilizing since the beginning of recorded history.

-bkfsec

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