Hi KDE users,
I want to have a simple analog clock on my root window of every
desktop. I don't want it to appear on my task bar.
I can think of three possibilities.
1) Run a clock application on the root window.
Good. But I don't know if such a thing is possible.
2) Use a dashboard- (Mac S X) or Desklet- (Gnome) like capability.
K. But I don't know if KDE has such a capability or
if there are such applications.
3) Disable the window decoration of xlock (or any clock application).
Simple and good. But, I don't quite know how to do this.
3.1) kstart Dock xclock
Almost there. No window decoration. But, there's an entry in
the task bar.
3.2) kstart Dock xclock
overrides Dock. So, there's window decoration.
3.3) ksystraycmd xclock
I don't know how to put xclock on all the desktops or
how to disable the window decoration.
Thank you for your attention,
Ryo
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Hi,

Yann Bodson said:
| 2) Use a dashboard- (Mac S X) or Desklet- (Gnome) like
| capability.
| K. But I don't know if KDE has such a capability or
| if there are such applications.
|
| KDE has such a functionality called SuperKaramba.

Great! I found SuperKaramba quite useful and *promising*.
I mean, unfortunately, some SuperKaramba applets aren't
as mature as one wishes. The analog clock which look best
to me consumes half of the CPU cycles! (and this bug
has already been reported.) Another problem to me is that
the whole idea of this type of system (including the Dashboard
and Desklet systems) leans toward *fancy* and fancy-looking
applets. I'm not against all eye-candy stuff, but I'd like
some applications to remain "unfancy". For example, compare
the good old xclock with beautiful-looking clocks for Karamba.
The latter are beautiful for sure, but I want my analog clock
to be perfectly unobtrusive, so I definitely prefer the look
of xlock. Well, I don't mean to discourage people. As I said,
the SuperKaramba system seems to be a great framework.
I might even try to create my own clock for SuperKaramba.

Bram Schoenmakers said:

| I want to have a simple analog clock on my root window of every
| desktop. I don't want it to appear on my task bar.
|
| Another way is to use window specific rules:
|
| 1) the application you want to show on your desktop (xclock for
| example)
| 2) Right click a title bar and choose Configure Window Behaviour.
| 3) Select the Window Specific Settings section
| 4) Create a new rule
| 5) Press the detect button and click on the xclock window. Now
| you're going to define settings for that specific window
| 6) In the tab Preferences:
| a. Set Keep Below to Force (and don't forget the check behind
| the combo!)
| b. Set No border to Force (check as well)
| c. Maybe some more preferences
| 7) K, K. Done

Thanks for the info! Unfortunately, I have no idea as to why, but
this method doesn't work for me. I let the dialogue "detect" xclock
by clicking on an xclock window. "xclock XClock" appears on the box,
indicating xclock was successfully detected. I then set "Keep Below"
to "Force", "Skip Task Bar" to "Force", etc., an did K, Apply, and
K. But, my xlock remains on the task bar, it goes over other windows,
etc. In short, it remains unchanged as far as I can tell.
I tried this process three times. on my Debian Linux box at my
office, and twice on my other box at home, to no avail. Hm. . . .

Regards,
Ryo

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Hi Bram,

| When you 'detect' the clock, you should choose the option Use Window
| Class (whole application).

It's really strange that that doesn't work, either.
For you, what happens if you specify "Skip Task Bar"
and "Keep Below". Does the window stay below all the
windows and does it disappear from your task bar?

| What is mind? No matter. What is matter? Never mind.
| (Punch, 1855)

Sounds very much like the 19th century. Science was
advancing at an unprecedented speed and people began
to wonder what's the relation between material and mind.

Cheers,
Ryo

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Hi, whenever transferring large files of 4GB~ and above, either from
FTP, or SMB (or possibly through other network modes also) Konqueror is
unable to count the amount of data being transfered and either stops
counting at 2GB~ with FTP, or in the case of Samba transfers, it reports
that 17 Million TB of Data has been transferred in the space of only a
few minutes - and then it again stops counting.

However when the file download has completed, the size of the
transferred file is normal.

Needless to say I don't have 17 million Terabytes of storage - indeed i
am lucky if i even have 200GB.

This was supposed to have been fixed in KDE 3.1 - but apparently the bug
is now back. Should i report it, or do the developers already know about it?

GJ

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Hi,

| | When you 'detect' the clock, you should choose the option Use Window
| | Class (whole application).
| >
| It's really strange that that doesn't work, either.
| For you, what happens if you specify "Skip Task Bar"
| and "Keep Below". Does the window stay below all the
| windows and does it disappear from your task bar?
|
| Yes, it does (however, it still hovers *above* the desktop
| icons). Did you really check the checkbox right of the combobox
| specifying "Force"?

Yes. I'm quite positive. I tried once again just now. This
time I used "plan" (an old calendar program for X Window).
I "detected" the window and checked the "Use window class (whole
application)" and pressed "K". I visited the "Preferences" tab,
checked the checkbox for "Skip Task Bar", and selected "Force"
of the combobox on the right. I pressed "K", "Apply", and "K".
I still see the "plan" in my task bar. I repeated this cycle and
saw no change.

Is it possible that I'm using an old version of KDE?
I'm using the testing distribution of Debian GNU/Linux.
KDE consists of many Debian packages, so I don't know which
represents the version of KDE as a whole. The package named
"kde" says "Version: 5:45", whatever it means.
(I've never seen a colon in a version number!)

Best regards,
Ryo

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Hi,

| I just noticed that the settings are not applied immediately, but as
| soon as you restart the application.

Yeah, I thought so, too. I closed xclock and restarted it.
No change (meaning it's still on my task bar.) I logged out
from KDE, logged in again, and started xlock. No change.
Indeed, I even rebooted the machine, logged in, and started
xclock, without seeing any change. (I didn't do this for this
experiment. I just shut down my home machine every day when
I go to bed.)

Hmm. . . There must be some difference between our environments
or something.

Best regards,
Ryo

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