There's no way to feed a QT file directly into WMEnc. Are you on a Mac (or
have access to one)? Telestream's Flip4mac works quite well to shoot right
out of QT Player Pro into WMV. a Windows box you can save out of QT Pro
as an AVI using the DV/DVCPro codec.
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From: Sean McShane [mailto:seanmc102 (AT) HTMAIL (DOT) CM]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:46 PM
To: WMTalk (AT) DISCUSS (DOT) MICRSFT.CM
Subject: Quicktime and Windows Media Encoder
I occasionally have the need to encode from a quicktime format to windows
media. Is there a plug-in or tool that will allow me to feed a Quicktime
movie (Photo-jpeg for example) into the windows media encoder?
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Pretty sure Media Encoder uses DirectShow as the source. If this is
the case you could try install the "Quicktime Alternative", which is a
DirectShow source/parser filter Quicktime.
-Chris

4/27/05, Sean McShane <seanmc102 (AT) hotmail (DOT) comwrote:
Well let me give a bit more data. I have been able to feed Quicktime
Photo-Jpeg movies directly into windows media encoder 9 for some time. I am
working on the windows platform.

A year or two ago I came across an AVI codec called LEAD Video Codec. This
is basically a JPEG AVI codec. By accident I found that if I had this codec
installed, I could now feed photo-jpeg Quicktime movies directly into
windows media encoder (on the PC). This was a great find and I have been
using it ever since, even though it was "not meant to be".

I just recently loaded a new encoding machine and this was not working on it
so I threw the question out there to see if others has some workaround on
this

Yes, I have used cleaner and it does work but windows media encoder is
free as is this LEAD Codec (eval version).

I also could have sworn that I saw a plug-in on the mocrosoft site that
enabled quicktime as a source for windows media encoder but I have not been
able to find this.

Anyways thanks for the suggestions.

Best,

Sean

>From: James Brooks <james (AT) DRASTICTECH (DOT) CM>
>Reply-To: WMTalk <WMTalk (AT) DISCUSS (DOT) MICRSFT.CM>
>To: WMTalk (AT) DISCUSS (DOT) MICRSFT.CM
>Subject: Re: Quicktime and Windows Media Encoder
>Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:06:38 -0400
>
>You could also use a third party software such as
>
>ProCoder
>Cleaner
>MediaReactor (our product)
>
>to go directly from a QT Mov in PhotoJPEG and most other codecs to WMV.
>
>James
>
>Streeter, Thomas (streettj) wrote:
>>There's no way to feed a QT file directly into WMEnc. Are you on a Mac
>>(or
>>have access to one)? Telestream's Flip4mac works quite well to shoot
>>right
>>out of QT Player Pro into WMV. a Windows box you can save out of QT
>>Pro
>>as an AVI using the DV/DVCPro codec.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Tom Streeter Senior Producer
>>University of Cincinnati Presentation Technologies & Services Group
>>tom.streeter (AT) uc (DOT) edu UCit Instructional & Research Computing
>>513-556-9494 (voice) http://www.uc.edu/ucit
>>513-556-0202 (fax) http://streaming.uc.edu
>>
>>"New technologies only allow people new opportunities to be people."
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>>From: Sean McShane [mailto:seanmc102 (AT) HTMAIL (DOT) CM] Sent: Wednesday, April
>>27, 2005 12:46 PM
>>To: WMTalk (AT) DISCUSS (DOT) MICRSFT.CM
>>Subject: Quicktime and Windows Media Encoder
>>
>>I occasionally have the need to encode from a quicktime format to windows
>>media. Is there a plug-in or tool that will allow me to feed a Quicktime
>>movie (Photo-jpeg for example) into the windows media encoder?
>>
>>
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I haven't investigated all the possible senario's, but I use it, and
it works for everything that I've thrown at it so far. If I can find
more MV files to test with I'll test it out further.
-Chris

4/27/05, Ben Waggoner <ben (AT) benwaggoner (DOT) comwrote:
Chris,

I've heard of that, but haven't spent much time with it. How
reliable/good is it in practice? For example, does it actually decode
things like interlace, non-square pixels, and Y'CbCr color correctly?

Ben Waggoner, Interframe Media http://www.interframemedia.com
Technology and Strategy for Digital Media

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My Stanford Class

on 4/27/05 11:45, Chris Parsons at parsons.chris (AT) GMAIL (DOT) CM wrote:
Pretty sure Media Encoder uses DirectShow as the source. If this is
the case you could try install the "Quicktime Alternative", which is a
DirectShow source/parser filter Quicktime.

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AFAIK, the QT Alternative dshow filter just provides the dshow filter
functionality and uses QT itself to decode the data. Doesn't it
require that you have QT installed Chris? IIRC, that's what it did
the last time I installed it.

4/27/05, Chris Parsons <parsons.chris (AT) gmail (DOT) comwrote:
I haven't investigated all the possible senario's, but I use it, and
it works for everything that I've thrown at it so far. If I can find
more MV files to test with I'll test it out further.
-Chris

4/27/05, Ben Waggoner <ben (AT) benwaggoner (DOT) comwrote:
Chris,

I've heard of that, but haven't spent much time with it. How
reliable/good is it in practice? For example, does it actually decode
things like interlace, non-square pixels, and Y'CbCr color correctly?
--
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Technology and Strategy for Digital Media

My Book:
My Tutorials
My Stanford Class

on 4/27/05 11:45, Chris Parsons at parsons.chris (AT) GMAIL (DOT) CM wrote:
Pretty sure Media Encoder uses DirectShow as the source. If this is
the case you could try install the "Quicktime Alternative", which is a
DirectShow source/parser filter Quicktime.

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Nope, I never installed Quicktime and it worked. Same goes for the
Real version, I never let that crapware near my PC.
-Chris

4/27/05, Phil Webster <haigha (AT) gmail (DOT) comwrote:
AFAIK, the QT Alternative dshow filter just provides the dshow filter
functionality and uses QT itself to decode the data. Doesn't it
require that you have QT installed Chris? IIRC, that's what it did
the last time I installed it.

4/27/05, Chris Parsons <parsons.chris (AT) gmail (DOT) comwrote:
I haven't investigated all the possible senario's, but I use it, and
it works for everything that I've thrown at it so far. If I can find
more MV files to test with I'll test it out further.

-Chris

4/27/05, Ben Waggoner <ben (AT) benwaggoner (DOT) comwrote:
Chris,

I've heard of that, but haven't spent much time with it. How
reliable/good is it in practice? For example, does it actually decode
things like interlace, non-square pixels, and Y'CbCr color correctly?
--
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Technology and Strategy for Digital Media

My Book:
My Tutorials
My Stanford Class

on 4/27/05 11:45, Chris Parsons at parsons.chris (AT) GMAIL (DOT) CM wrote:
Pretty sure Media Encoder uses DirectShow as the source. If this is
the case you could try install the "Quicktime Alternative", which is a
DirectShow source/parser filter Quicktime.

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So maybe what I was seeing was Player Classic being installed?

For some reason I have both QT and QT Altnerative installed on this PC.

4/27/05, Chris Parsons <parsons.chris (AT) gmail (DOT) comwrote:
Nope, I never installed Quicktime and it worked. Same goes for the
Real version, I never let that crapware near my PC.
-Chris

4/27/05, Phil Webster <haigha (AT) gmail (DOT) comwrote:
AFAIK, the QT Alternative dshow filter just provides the dshow filter
functionality and uses QT itself to decode the data. Doesn't it
require that you have QT installed Chris? IIRC, that's what it did
the last time I installed it.

4/27/05, Chris Parsons <parsons.chris (AT) gmail (DOT) comwrote:
I haven't investigated all the possible senario's, but I use it, and
it works for everything that I've thrown at it so far. If I can find
more MV files to test with I'll test it out further.

-Chris

4/27/05, Ben Waggoner <ben (AT) benwaggoner (DOT) comwrote:
Chris,

I've heard of that, but haven't spent much time with it. How
reliable/good is it in practice? For example, does it actually decode
things like interlace, non-square pixels, and Y'CbCr color correctly?
--
Ben Waggoner, Interframe Media
Technology and Strategy for Digital Media

My Book:
My Tutorials
My Stanford Class

on 4/27/05 11:45, Chris Parsons at parsons.chris (AT) GMAIL (DOT) CM wrote:
Pretty sure Media Encoder uses DirectShow as the source. If this is
the case you could try install the "Quicktime Alternative", which is a
DirectShow source/parser filter Quicktime.

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You can have both installed, the QT Alternative installer is careful
to make sure it doesn't step on the full Quicktime install. However
most users who wish to be Apple free uninstall full Quicktime and then
install the Alternative or on a clean machine just install the
Alternative.

Media Player Classic is a cute little DirectShow player that works
pretty well. A very good test bench for testing DShow playback.
-Chris

4/27/05, Phil Webster <haigha (AT) gmail (DOT) comwrote:
So maybe what I was seeing was Player Classic being installed?

For some reason I have both QT and QT Altnerative installed on this PC.

4/27/05, Chris Parsons <parsons.chris (AT) gmail (DOT) comwrote:
Nope, I never installed Quicktime and it worked. Same goes for the
Real version, I never let that crapware near my PC.

-Chris

4/27/05, Phil Webster <haigha (AT) gmail (DOT) comwrote:
AFAIK, the QT Alternative dshow filter just provides the dshow filter
functionality and uses QT itself to decode the data. Doesn't it
require that you have QT installed Chris? IIRC, that's what it did
the last time I installed it.

4/27/05, Chris Parsons <parsons.chris (AT) gmail (DOT) comwrote:
I haven't investigated all the possible senario's, but I use it, and
it works for everything that I've thrown at it so far. If I can find
more MV files to test with I'll test it out further.

-Chris

4/27/05, Ben Waggoner <ben (AT) benwaggoner (DOT) comwrote:
Chris,

I've heard of that, but haven't spent much time with it. How
reliable/good is it in practice? For example, does it actually decode
things like interlace, non-square pixels, and Y'CbCr color correctly?
--
Ben Waggoner, Interframe Media http://www.interframemedia.com
Technology and Strategy for Digital Media

My Book:
My Tutorials
My Stanford Class

on 4/27/05 11:45, Chris Parsons at parsons.chris (AT) GMAIL (DOT) CM wrote:
Pretty sure Media Encoder uses DirectShow as the source. If this is
the case you could try install the "Quicktime Alternative", which is a
DirectShow source/parser filter Quicktime.

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I have nothing against the Quicktime format itself, they have
developed some good technology. I just have strong objections to
players that are either excessively large, extremely annoying (such as
asking to upgrade everytime you start), or extremely difficult to
download (Real Player fits here). Surprisingly I used to love Real in
the early days.
-Chris

4/27/05, Ben Waggoner <ben (AT) benwaggoner (DOT) comwrote:
Chris,

Honestly, RealPlayer 10 is quite good, and addresses almost all of the
profound annoyances of R And QuickTime is excellent technology, and
they have a great player. It's just that the format and codec set aren't
competitive compared to WMV. I'd love Telestream to port Flip4Mac to
Windows. You haven't taught compression until you've used QuickTime Player
Pro in "Play All Frames" and "Play All Movies." It'll simultaneously play
all open movies, and reduce frame rate so that it can play them all in
perfect sync with no dropped frames. Great way to compare two files. And
it has great facility to pass through already encoded media with some
changes.

Honestly, the best of both worlds for content creators would be to have
Apple treat WMV as a 1st class citizen for file format support in QuickTime.

Ben Waggoner, Interframe Media http://www.interframemedia.com
Technology and Strategy for Digital Media

My Book:
My Tutorials
My Stanford Class

on 4/27/05 13:23, Chris Parsons at parsons.chris (AT) GMAIL (DOT) CM wrote:
Nope, I never installed Quicktime and it worked. Same goes for the
Real version, I never let that crapware near my PC.

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Hey Brandon, I just rejoined the WMTalk list, I remember you from a
while back. When did you come back to the list?

4/28/05, Brandon N. Wirtz <drakaal (AT) digerat (DOT) comwrote:
Sorry I wasn't around for the start of this thread Actually there is
limited QT Support in WME as long as you have a DirectShow Quicktime Parser
installed.

you find one of these you can process Quicktime Uncompressed, Quicktime
MJPG, Quicktime DV, and Quicktime Mpeg4 files.

I haven't found a solution for doing Quicktime AVID files, or Sorenson Files
directly in WME.

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From: WMTalk [mailto:WMTalk (AT) DISCUSS (DOT) MICRSFT.CM] Behalf Streeter,
Thomas (streettj)
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:51 AM
To: WMTalk (AT) DISCUSS (DOT) MICRSFT.CM
Subject: Re: Quicktime and Windows Media Encoder

There's no way to feed a QT file directly into WMEnc. Are you on a Mac (or
have access to one)? Telestream's Flip4mac works quite well to shoot right
out of QT Player Pro into WMV. a Windows box you can save out of QT Pro
as an AVI using the DV/DVCPro codec.

Tom Streeter Senior Producer
University of Cincinnati Presentation Technologies & Services Group
tom.streeter (AT) uc (DOT) edu UCit Instructional & Research Computing
513-556-9494 (voice) http://www.uc.edu/ucit
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"New technologies only allow people new opportunities to be people."

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Subject: Quicktime and Windows Media Encoder

I occasionally have the need to encode from a quicktime format to windows
media. Is there a plug-in or tool that will allow me to feed a Quicktime
movie (Photo-jpeg for example) into the windows media encoder?

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