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    Hi,
    I read a lot of stuff about the new topics, nexus and sections layout
    from the latest CVS. I'm not entirely confused but want your advice :-)
    An subset of my simple topics layout could look like this:
    (A) Application Domains
    (B) Agriculture
    (B) Energy
    (A) The Industry
    (B) Government
    (B) NASA
    My level (A) is unsubmittable nexus with children
    My level (B) is a topic with one parent
    What I want to do is nothing fancy:
    (1) Have some topics to appear on main page
    (2) Have some topics to appear on the "nexus page"
    For (1), there is no problem, I simply post the story for the topic
    under main page and it's done. For (2) however, I want advice for the
    best way to do it.
    I haven't played with blocks yet, but I'd like stories that are not
    on main page to appear in a block such as Slashdot's block for
    sections' list with the number of non-main-page stories showed as "x
    more". Can this be done for nexus topics?
    The section addition code is broken in backslash and I don't feel any
    urge for sections if there a way, for the user, to get a clue about
    new stories not on main page for a specific nexus.
    Thanks for any advice :-)
    Alex :-)
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  • No.1 | | 3020 bytes | |

    I found previous discussions started by George Clark and Mark Gaulin.
    The conclusions are not known and there is obviously still confusion
    on this very issue. Anyone want to help clear things out? Reading
    from what I included below, it seems I would need different skins for
    each nexus, right?

    = = = = =
    A tidbit:
    Mark Gaulin:
    I think my final assessment is probably close: to post a story to a
    topic and not have it show up on MainPage, that topic must have a
    parent (or grandparent) topic that is a nexus, and there must be a
    skin associated with that nexus. If there isn't one then the story
    will have no primaryskid and will not appear anywhere (unless the min
    weights are set such that the story ends up being rendered into
    MainPage anyway).

    IMH, that's a bug.
    Shane
    = = = = =

    Le 05-08-18 9:01 pm, Alexandre Leroux a :
    I read a lot of stuff about the new topics, nexus and sections
    layout from the latest CVS. I'm not entirely confused but want your
    advice :-)

    An subset of my simple topics layout could look like this:

    (A) Application Domains
    (B) Agriculture
    (B) Energy
    (A) The Industry
    (B) Government
    (B) NASA

    My level (A) is unsubmittable nexus with children
    My level (B) is a topic with one parent

    What I want to do is nothing fancy:
    (1) Have some topics to appear on main page
    (2) Have some topics to appear on the "nexus page"

    For (1), there is no problem, I simply post the story for the topic
    under main page and it's done. For (2) however, I want advice for
    the best way to do it.

    I haven't played with blocks yet, but I'd like stories that are not
    on main page to appear in a block such as Slashdot's block for
    sections' list with the number of non-main-page stories showed as
    "x more". Can this be done for nexus topics?

    The section addition code is broken in backslash and I don't feel
    any urge for sections if there a way, for the user, to get a clue
    about new stories not on main page for a specific nexus.
    --
    Thanks for any advice :-)

    Alex :-)
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  • No.2 | | 4812 bytes | |

    That post that you found from Mark - that's *very* old. It mentions
    the weights - it used to be that you could associate 'weights'.

    Regarding posting a story and having it not show up on the main
    page from the sound of it, this is now a non-issue too. I
    routinely post stories on lottadot, in a section, and I do not want
    those stories on the frontpage. I just use the ^X+V to move the
    topics around or remove them from the available list when editting a
    story.

    Shane

    Aug 18, 2005, at 10:43 PM, Alexandre Leroux wrote:

    I found previous discussions started by George Clark and Mark
    Gaulin. The conclusions are not known and there is obviously still
    confusion on this very issue. Anyone want to help clear things out?
    Reading from what I included below, it seems I would need different
    skins for each nexus, right?

    = = = = =
    A tidbit:
    Mark Gaulin:
    >
    >I think my final assessment is probably close: to post a story to a
    >topic and not have it show up on MainPage, that topic must have a
    >parent (or grandparent) topic that is a nexus, and there must be a
    >skin associated with that nexus. If there isn't one then the story
    >will have no primaryskid and will not appear anywhere (unless the min
    >weights are set such that the story ends up being rendered into
    >MainPage anyway).
    >>
    >>

    >

    IMH, that's a bug.
    Shane
    = = = = =
    >
    >
    >

    Le 05-08-18 9:01 pm, Alexandre Leroux a :
    >
    >I read a lot of stuff about the new topics, nexus and sections
    >layout from the latest CVS. I'm not entirely confused but want
    >your advice :-)
    >>

    >An subset of my simple topics layout could look like this:
    >>

    >(A) Application Domains
    >(B) Agriculture
    >(B) Energy
    >(A) The Industry
    >(B) Government
    >(B) NASA
    >>

    >My level (A) is unsubmittable nexus with children
    >My level (B) is a topic with one parent
    >>

    >What I want to do is nothing fancy:
    >(1) Have some topics to appear on main page
    >(2) Have some topics to appear on the "nexus page"
    >>

    >For (1), there is no problem, I simply post the story for the
    >topic under main page and it's done. For (2) however, I want
    >advice for the best way to do it.
    >>

    >I haven't played with blocks yet, but I'd like stories that are
    >not on main page to appear in a block such as Slashdot's block for
    >sections' list with the number of non-main-page stories showed as
    >"x more". Can this be done for nexus topics?
    >>

    >The section addition code is broken in backslash and I don't feel
    >any urge for sections if there a way, for the user, to get a clue
    >about new stories not on main page for a specific nexus.
    >>
    >>

    >Thanks for any advice :-)
    >>

    >Alex :-)
    >>
    >>

    >
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    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    >


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  • No.3 | | 2616 bytes | |

    Aug 18, 2005, at 9:01 PM, Alexandre Leroux wrote:

    Hi,

    I read a lot of stuff about the new topics, nexus and sections
    layout from the latest CVS. I'm not entirely confused but want your
    advice :-)

    An subset of my simple topics layout could look like this:

    (A) Application Domains
    (B) Agriculture
    (B) Energy
    (A) The Industry
    (B) Government
    (B) NASA

    My level (A) is unsubmittable nexus with children
    My level (B) is a topic with one parent

    What I want to do is nothing fancy:
    (1) Have some topics to appear on main page
    (2) Have some topics to appear on the "nexus page"

    For (1), there is no problem, I simply post the story for the topic
    under main page and it's done. For (2) however, I want advice for
    the best way to do it.

    I guess I'm unsure what you're asking. It should be very simple for
    you to set stories in the (2) situation appear on the appropriate
    nexus page.

    I haven't played with blocks yet, but I'd like stories that are not
    on main page to appear in a block such as Slashdot's block for
    sections' list with the number of non-main-page stories showed as
    "x more". Can this be done for nexus topics?

    Sure, it can be done, where there's a will there's a way. Afterall,
    Slashdot's doing it :)
    You're referring to the left-hand-side, under the login, right?

    I don't know that it'll do what you're wanting, out-of-the-box. I
    know this has been asked before. (it should be in the faq). Search
    the archives, maybe there's prior discussion about it, or on
    slashcode.com or lottadot.

    The section addition code is broken in backslash and I don't feel
    any urge for sections if there a way, for the user, to get a clue
    about new stories not on main page for a specific nexus.

    well I would think, if we ever get a 'section editor' it'd really be
    called a 'skins editor'. I dunno what terminology the STG guys would
    prefer there. Guys?

    For now, you have to create your skins/sections by hand with sql.

    Shane

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  • No.4 | | 1870 bytes | |

    >What I want to do is nothing fancy:
    >(1) Have some topics to appear on main page
    >(2) Have some topics to appear on the "nexus page"
    >>

    >For (1), there is no problem, I simply post the story for the
    >topic under main page and it's done. For (2) however, I want
    >advice for the best way to do it.
    >

    I guess I'm unsure what you're asking. It should be very simple for
    you to set stories in the (2) situation appear on the appropriate
    nexus page.

    Yeah - for stories to appear on the appropriate nexus page, am I
    right if I say the only thing missing is to have different skins/
    sections for my nexus topics?

    Right now,
    There seems to be only three possibilities:
    - This story will be on the Main Page [x], and linked from Technology
    [x].
    - This story will be .
    - Story will not appear.

    My problem is of course with the "This story will be ". It happens
    when a nexus topic is in the -^- Sectional -^- while I have only
    the default mainpage skin/section existing.

    Related: how do I associate a nexus topic to a specific skin/section?
    I'm sure I saw this somewhere in backslash, but can't find it
    anymore. Not in

    I searched lottadot's faq for further answers, none found. I'll flll
    it if this issues gets solved :-)

    Thanks :-)

    Alex

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  • No.5 | | 2847 bytes | |

    Hi list,

    Issue solved. For clarity's sake, here's answers to my own questions.
    Thanks to Shane (and Mark) whom helped me understand.

    I wanted two types of stories: those for main page, those not for
    main page.
    Stories must be associated to a skin to appear anywhere (e.g. http://
    site/search.pl?tid=19).

    What was missing on my site was another skin than mainpage associated
    to my new nexus. This is done by adding/changing skins in the skins
    table. Example, "update skins set nexus="15" where skid='2';" , where
    the nexus value is the tid of the nexus-topic. This skin is a
    section. You'll probably want to change the hostname, name and title
    values of this skin directly in the table too.

    Actually, I created a few section-skins, each one associate with a
    nexus-topic. Required because I wanted the good name to appear (the
    "title" value of the skin) when the story is set within a section-
    skin and on mainpage in the mean time.

    I added this info in lottadot's faq.

    Alex :-)

    What I want to do is nothing fancy:
    (1) Have some topics to appear on main page
    (2) Have some topics to appear on the "nexus page"

    For (1), there is no problem, I simply post the story for the
    topic under main page and it's done. For (2) however, I want
    advice for the best way to do it.

    >>

    >I guess I'm unsure what you're asking. It should be very simple
    >for you to set stories in the (2) situation appear on the
    >appropriate nexus page.
    >>

    >

    Yeah - for stories to appear on the appropriate nexus page, am I
    right if I say the only thing missing is to have different skins/
    sections for my nexus topics?

    Right now,
    There seems to be only three possibilities:
    - This story will be on the Main Page [x], and linked from
    Technology [x].
    - This story will be .
    - Story will not appear.

    My problem is of course with the "This story will be ". It happens
    when a nexus topic is in the -^- Sectional -^- while I have only
    the default mainpage skin/section existing.

    Related: how do I associate a nexus topic to a specific skin/
    section? I'm sure I saw this somewhere in backslash, but can't find
    it anymore. Not in

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