Cosmin -
Mea culpa. I didn't search very hard for Delphi and Ajax. :) Marc's implementation with CGI is clever and provides a non-IIS method of using Ajax and Delphi together. Bob's approach appears to utilize ASP.NET. In fact, I couldn't see how Delphi was involved at all with his Ajax demo, but I breezed through it pretty fast so I may be incorrect. Apologies if I missed that bit, Bob.
I've played with a couple of different Ajax technologies and found them frustrating. It seems to me that Delphi's RAD approach could easily be used to develop the forms and underlying connectivity issues that plague Ajax. I've run across one developer from Brazil who actually wrote a converter from DFM to openLaszlo forms. It seems that Borland/CodeGear could put a little effort into helping Delphi developers develop Ajax without requiring us to jump through hoops. If they married with a platform like openLaszlo or Adobe Flex, much like they created the CLX components for Kylix,
Not that I am down on Delphi, my company still develops with Delphi 7 and I use it every day. I would upgrade if they ever come out with a package that crashed less often than D7. The Delphi 06 demo that I downloaded crashed within 5 minutes (who knew I wasn't supposed to DCK the form designer?) I've used Borland Pascal since TP 3.0 days and don't want to use a different language. I'm just forced to examine that all the time when someone says, "Hey, I want a website that does XYZ" or "Can it run on Palm S 5?" or " company is a Solaris shop, what can you do for us?" or even on the Windows platform, "Will it run as a native 64-bit app?" All I want to do is satisfy my customers. All I'm asking is for my golden goose to lay a couple more eggs. :)
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Marshall,

Have you got that Laszlo link ? I was thinking about trying something
like that myself, but if it's already been done, even better!

I've been following Laszlo for about a year now and they've recently
tied up with Sun as well. Their LaszloMail application is beautiful and I
would love to see them release code samples on how they did things like the
splitter/toolbars and grid customisations in the application.

Many thanks,
Darren

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From: "Marshall E. Fryman" <mfryman (AT) futuraintl (DOT) com>
To: delphi-talk (AT) elists (DOT) org
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:18:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Delphi - current status and future?

Cosmin -
Mea culpa. I didn't search very hard for Delphi and Ajax. :) Marc's
implementation with CGI is clever and provides a non-IIS method of
using Ajax and Delphi together. Bob's approach appears to utilize
ASP.NET. In fact, I couldn't see how Delphi was involved at all with
his Ajax demo, but I breezed through it pretty fast so I may be
incorrect. Apologies if I missed that bit, Bob.

I've played with a couple of different Ajax technologies and found them
frustrating. It seems to me that Delphi's RAD approach could easily be
used to develop the forms and underlying connectivity issues that
plague Ajax. I've run across one developer from Brazil who actually
wrote a converter from DFM to openLaszlo forms. It seems that
Borland/CodeGear could put a little effort into helping Delphi
developers develop Ajax without requiring us to jump through hoops. If
they married with a platform like openLaszlo or Adobe Flex, much like
they created the CLX components for Kylix,

Not that I am down on Delphi, my company still develops with Delphi 7
and I use it every day. I would upgrade if they ever come out with a
package that crashed less often than D7. The Delphi 06 demo that I
downloaded crashed within 5 minutes (who knew I wasn't supposed to DCK
the form designer?) I've used Borland Pascal since TP 3.0 days and
don't want to use a different language. I'm just forced to examine that
all the time when someone says, "Hey, I want a website that does XYZ"
or "Can it run on Palm S 5?" or " company is a Solaris shop, what
can you do for us?" or even on the Windows platform, "Will it run as a
native 64-bit app?" All I want to do is satisfy my customers. All I'm
asking is for my golden goose to lay a couple more eggs. :)

m

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