Laurent Montel pravi:
Hi,

I created some screenshot about KDE4 under MX and Windows.
You can see them under this url:
http://people.mandriva.com/~

Now KDE4 can be launch on Linux-MX-Windows.

Regards.

Great shots. Windows is finally getting some decent desktop :) I've also
submitted this link to digg to help spread the great news:

Friday 10 November 2006 13:58, Laurent Montel wrote:
I don't know how to create package for windows/M :(

For Windows there's at least the solution that's commonly used by sysadmins to
deploy software within a company:

It's less suitable for distributing software to desktops over which you have
little control, because there's little dependency tracking and no interactive
control over installed components, but for just our own use at a trade show
it may do.

If you know a bit about Windows it's not hard, I've done it a few times. The
problem is more that you need a more or less clean system to start with,
which is not exactly trivial if this is a system where you also install a
zillion developer tools on.

There are a few other free and/or open source tools, but I have no experience
with them:

Fri Nov 10 2006, Martijn Klingens wrote:
Friday 10 November 2006 13:58, Laurent Montel wrote:
I don't know how to create package for windows/M :(

For Windows there's at least the solution that's commonly used by sysadmins to
deploy software within a company:

There are a few other free and/or open source tools, but I have no experience
with them:

We chose http://nsis.sourceforge.net/ at kdab since it's apparently much nicer,
but all this is for creating proper installers I wonder if it wouldn't be enough to
just distribute a zip with all dlls and exe in it for now?

Friday 10 November 2006 14:32, David Faure wrote:
Fri Nov 10 2006, Martijn Klingens wrote:
Friday 10 November 2006 13:58, Laurent Montel wrote:
I don't know how to create package for windows/M :(

For Windows there's at least the solution that's commonly used by
sysadmins to deploy software within a company:

There are a few other free and/or open source tools, but I have no
experience with them:

We chose http://nsis.sourceforge.net/ at kdab since it's apparently much
nicer, but all this is for creating proper installers I wonder if it
wouldn't be enough to just distribute a zip with all dlls and exe in it for
now?

That's why I mentioned WinInstall LE first - it takes a 'before' and 'after'
installation snapshot of your system so it helps figuring out which files and
registry entries have changed during the process.

In the end the resulting .msi file is little more than a .zip file that can
relocate files with other %windir% and can add registry keys.

If KDE4/win is relocatable to other directories, does not install files
outside its own dir (not even to windows\system32) and doesn't touch the
registry -- I don't know -- then yeah, just go with .zip.

Friday 10 November 2006 14:20, Martijn Klingens wrote:
Friday 10 November 2006 13:58, Laurent Montel wrote:
I don't know how to create package for windows/M :(

For Windows there's at least the solution that's commonly used by sysadmins
to deploy software within a company:

It's less suitable for distributing software to desktops over which you
have little control, because there's little dependency tracking and no
interactive control over installed components, but for just our own use at
a trade show it may do.

If you know a bit about Windows it's not hard, I've done it a few times.
The problem is more that you need a more or less clean system to start
with, which is not exactly trivial if this is a system where you also
install a zillion developer tools on.

There are a few other free and/or open source tools, but I have no
experience with them:

CMake comes with CPack (which is still beta). It's a tool to create software
packages on all supported platforms. AFAIK on Windows NSIS is supported.
Under Linux tgz is supported, not sure about other formats. AFAIK it does so
by using the information from the INSTALL() commands.

Bye
Alex

Friday 10 November 2006 4:03, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
Minor nitpick: Could you use a style mimicking that of the platform also on
Windows? IMH this makes the program look even more portable.

IMH this should be made a requirement for such screenshots that get used in
public messaging.

Friday 10 November 2006 5:01, Jure Repinc wrote:

>_and_MS_X

i appreciate your enthusiasm.

however, the title for your submission is not accurate. it is not the KDE4
desktop. it is KDE4 applications. the difference is important. i'm working as
fast as i can with other people in the marketing groups to put together
information regarding these distinctions but it takes time. we have a meeting
in germany at the end of this month after which we should hopefully have
something coherent on it.

i'm also highly concerned about a bunch of us running around and in our
excitement spreading a bunch of information that does reflect well on kde,
the goals we have going forward or our commitments to free software in
general.

may i suggest we all go outside, shout "B YAH!" or whatever it is each of
us says when excited at the top of our lungs from a rooftop to get the rush
of adrenaline met and then come back here to discuss positioning and
messaging, aka "marketing"?

=)

Friday 10 November 2006 1:34, Laurent Montel wrote:
Now KDE4 can be launch on Linux-MX-Windows.

cool.

this is not a small step. i'd *really* like to see us have an actual coherent
position that we can use to communicate the purpose and point behind it along
with our commitments that surround it before we got off half cocked and
create a bunch of confusion and false expectations by sending it to theDot,
slashdot, digg, etc[1]

i sent a lengthy email regarding this to k-c-d as it will require commitment
and communication from the developers first and foremost.

waiting a couple of weeks to get this news "out there" properly is fine. we
don't have to get this out RIGHT NW just because a developer did it
yesterday. it's more important to get the messages properly formulated. this
is not a small event, let's show it the respect it deserves.

[1] yes, i know, too late for some of that.