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    Hi there,
    this is my first posting on this list, so please apologise for any violations
    of rules here.
    Today I tried to make a backup of a big amount of data to our fileserver using
    drag and drop in konqueror and fish for access protocol to the server.
    I recognised a limitation of speed of about 1MB/sec. which is really
    unsatisfying. So I cancelled the copy process. When doing drag and drop with
    more than 10 subdirs of my data separately in parallel I recognised the same
    limit for each transfer. But the total transfer rate of all copies was about
    10MB/sec. . So this should not be a limit of disk access, CPU power or the
    network.
    What is the reason for the limitation? Is there anything I can do here?
    Thanks for any hints.
    - Werner -
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    Kde-optimize (AT) kde (DOT) org
  • No.1 | | 986 bytes | |

    09/05/06, Werner Modenbach <modenbach (AT) alc (DOT) dewrote:
    I recognised a limitation of speed of about 1MB/sec. which is really
    unsatisfying. So I cancelled the copy process. When doing drag and drop with
    more than 10 subdirs of my data separately in parallel I recognised the same
    limit for each transfer. But the total transfer rate of all copies was about
    10MB/sec. . So this should not be a limit of disk access, CPU power or the
    network.
    What is the reason for the limitation? Is there anything I can do here?

    I don't know the fish protocol, but the usual reason for multiple
    streams going faster than a single stream is latency (e.g. time for
    the other end to ack the data). You can sometimes reduce the effect of
    end-to-end latency on throughput by reading and writing in larger
    'chunks' - is there an option regarding that?

    jb

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  • No.2 | | 1574 bytes | |

    Hi John,

    thanks for your fast answer.
    As far as I understand fish is the same than using scp except it isn't on a
    command line but implemented as a protocol in KDE.
    When using scp in a shell transfers are significantly faster!!!
    You can easily verify that by copying a large file i.e. a CD IS image to a
    server using both methods.
    To my knowledge there is no option in konqueror or KDE to manipulate chunk
    sizes.
    - Werner -
    Am Mittwoch, 10. Mai 2006 15:57 schrieb John Berthels:
    09/05/06, Werner Modenbach <modenbach (AT) alc (DOT) dewrote:
    I recognised a limitation of speed of about 1MB/sec. which is really
    unsatisfying. So I cancelled the copy process. When doing drag and drop
    with more than 10 subdirs of my data separately in parallel I recognised
    the same limit for each transfer. But the total transfer rate of all
    copies was about 10MB/sec. . So this should not be a limit of disk
    access, CPU power or the network.
    What is the reason for the limitation? Is there anything I can do here?

    I don't know the fish protocol, but the usual reason for multiple
    streams going faster than a single stream is latency (e.g. time for
    the other end to ack the data). You can sometimes reduce the effect of
    end-to-end latency on throughput by reading and writing in larger
    'chunks' - is there an option regarding that?

    jb

    Kde-optimize mailing list
    Kde-optimize (AT) kde (DOT) org

    Kde-optimize mailing list
    Kde-optimize (AT) kde (DOT) org
  • No.3 | | 1056 bytes | |

    Werner Modenbach wrote:
    Hi there,

    this is my first posting on this list, so please apologise for any violations
    of rules here.

    Today I tried to make a backup of a big amount of data to our fileserver using
    drag and drop in konqueror and fish for access protocol to the server.

    I recognised a limitation of speed of about 1MB/sec. which is really
    unsatisfying. So I cancelled the copy process. When doing drag and drop with
    more than 10 subdirs of my data separately in parallel I recognised the same
    limit for each transfer. But the total transfer rate of all copies was about
    10MB/sec. . So this should not be a limit of disk access, CPU power or the
    network.
    What is the reason for the limitation? Is there anything I can do here?

    try sftp:// I've also used fish for a long time, and sftp works much
    better, and is not such a hack than fish

    best regards,
    Yves

    Thanks for any hints.
    - Werner -
    Kde-optimize mailing list
    Kde-optimize (AT) kde (DOT) org
  • No.4 | | 314 bytes | |

    Thanks, I'll do some test on it.
    - Werner -
    Am Mittwoch, 10. Mai 2006 15:52 schrieb Yves Glodt:

    try sftp:// I've also used fish for a long time, and sftp works much
    better, and is not such a hack than fish

    Kde-optimize mailing list
    Kde-optimize (AT) kde (DOT) org
  • No.5 | | 755 bytes | |

    Wed, May 10, 2006 at 04:18:03PM +0200, Werner Modenbach wrote:
    Hi John,

    thanks for your fast answer.
    As far as I understand fish is the same than using scp except it isn't on a
    command line but implemented as a protocol in KDE.

    not exactly. fish uses a perl program on the `server to answer the
    kioslave's requests:

    When using scp in a shell transfers are significantly faster!!!

    yes, I noticed this too.

    take also in account that the code is rather unmaintained; last commit was:
    Modified Fri Nov 19 17:40:19 2004 UTC (17 months, 3 weeks ago) by waba. maybe it
    doesn't need maintenance, but given the performance problem it has, I guess it's
    just old code. useful, but slow.

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