Good sir, if what you say be true, show me your proof.

Also, using your medical training, explain the injuries to the bodies
in Falluja.

Thanks :-)

12/09/06, Throwaway1 (AT) columbus (DOT) rr.com <Throwaway1 (AT) columbus (DOT) rr.comwrote:
Contex -


>If you consider that America are
>able to lie about the weapons of mass
>destruction and then admit it,

"America" never lied about WMD.
America is not in a position to prove that any WMD stockpiles
existed past December of 1998, when Saddam kicked out the UN; but
at worst that makes them wrong, not liars.
>
>
>

>use chemical weapons in Iraq and lie
>about it and then admit it

America did not use Nerve Agents or Blister Agents in Iraq.
Nerve Agents and Blister Agents are "Chemical Waepons".
Smoke Generators and tear gas are not. Unless of course you are
seeking to redefine the word to fit a political agenda.
>
>
>

Wikipedia they also discuss the
>mans "criminal history", what has
>that got to do with anything other
>than making the man seem unreliable.

He IS unrealiable. He is also a fake.
His criminal history is part of his backstory.
a personal note, speaking as someone who HAS served with the 3/75 Ranger
Regiment, it is my opinion that after what he did to besmirch the honor of
a Regiment that he never belonged to in the first place, he deserves to
have his name dragged through the mud. HE brought it upon HIMSELF.
>
>
>

>There are numerous other people
>who talk about the terror that has
>gone on in Iraq, including the use
>white phosphorous

White Phosphorous rounds are used to generate what is known as "Quick
Smoke". It's called "Quick Smoke" because WP rapidly generates thick white
clouds of dense smoke and as such is useful for situations where you want
to obscure the movement of friendly troops.
For the record, I did not look that up on Wikipedia, it was part of my
military Training as a Forward I am an expert of what is known as
Indirect Fire Support and the ammunition used therein. So when I tell you
that WP is a SMKE GENERATR and is neither a "Chemical Weapon" within the
meaning of "WMD", nor is it even remotely related to Napalm.
>
>
>
You do your cause no favor when you join the "Tinfoil Hat" brigade.
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Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:32:52 -0400 Throwaway1 (AT) columbus (DOT) rr.com wrote:

"America" never lied about WMD.

course it did not, a country cannot lie. The US and UK gouvernments did.
It is rather unfortunate that mostly those country's clueless citizens do
have to pay for their administrations aberrations.

12/09/06, bkfsec <bkfsec (AT) sdf (DOT) lonestar.orgwrote:

I think you two are using different definitions for Chemical Weapons,
perhaps.

I think so, though chemical weapons have been used.

There are hundereds / thousands of bodies that have been melted almost
to the bone, while their clothes are in flawless tact, some have other
horrific injuries yet they same outcome, either skin has peeled away
from the flesh of their bodies, while parts of their face, or limbs
have melted away completly - others who are alive have abnormalities
appearing, strange bulges in their limbs, one childs head has expanded
(one who survived) yet the victims clothes are still undamaged, pretty
neat bullets and pretty neat smoke.

12/09/06, Paul Schmehl <pauls (AT) utdallas (DOT) eduwrote:

This is stupid. There's tons of documentation in the public domain that
refutes your assertions. Go read the International Chemical Weapons
agreements, which clearly state that white phosphorus is *not* defined as a
chemical weapon. Given that, nothing else needs to be explained.

No one has to prove anything to you. Furthermore, you wouldn't believe it
if someone did prove it. You've already asserted that no matter what
anyone says about Jesse Macbeth, you'll just excuse it away as manipulation
by the evil people of the world. Even his own discharge papers, posted on
his own website, showed that he was washed out of boot camp.

Why are you putting words in to my mouth? I never said I would not
believe about Jessy being in error, if you follow the thread, I merely
shared a video witha comment stating that it was disgusting - then
some soldier got on his horse and went to war with me, a bit like Bush
did.

I actually updated my blog more than 3 hours ago with information
statign Jessy was a hoax, I never knew and I accept that - Then I
merely presented information to show that it CULD have been a cover
up, nothing more.

If you are going to make a claim, provide evidence to back it up, that
is why I asked for proof. That is why most of the Globe ate up Bush &
Blairs fairytale in the first place, talk is cheap and evidence is
invisible.

Throwaway1 (AT) columbus (DOT) rr.com wrote:
Contex -


>If you consider that America are
>able to lie about the weapons of mass
>destruction and then admit it,

"America" never lied about WMD.
America is not in a position to prove that any WMD stockpiles
existed past December of 1998, when Saddam kicked out the UN; but
at worst that makes them wrong, not liars.

All the stuff about VX nerve gas *HAS* to be conscious, knowing,
deliberate lies.

Why? Because the stuff has a shelf-life of twelve weeks, and anyone who's
claiming a decade later that there's a ton and a half of the stuff
unaccounted for KNWS for a fact that even if it did still exist in any
recognizable form it would be less harmful than dirty dishwater.

I'm sorry, but the *publicly known* facts were so blatantly in opposition
to the conclusions promulgated by the warmongers that I'm not willing to
accept 'mistaken' as a plausible explanation.

cheers,
DaveK