Dear subscribers,
I am a Solaris newbie, and I have a question on my recently Solaris 9
12/02 x86. How do I run the graphics without a mouse and keyboard? I
mean how to start Xsun if I have no peripherals? It is necessary
because in the corner there my server resides there is no room for a
keyboard, and as for the mouse, I don't have a spare one. I plan to
display CDE on a Windows PC with Exceed.
I appreciate any help or a link to a relevant piece of information.
Thank you.
SunHELP maillist - SunHELP (AT) sunhelp (DOT) org

Sat, 2005-09-03 at 20:57 +0400, Valeriy Yankin wrote:
Dear subscribers,

I am a Solaris newbie, and I have a question on my recently Solaris 9
12/02 x86. How do I run the graphics without a mouse and keyboard? I
mean how to start Xsun if I have no peripherals? It is necessary
because in the corner there my server resides there is no room for a
keyboard, and as for the mouse, I don't have a spare one. I plan to
display CDE on a Windows PC with Exceed.

You can't run Xsun. You can run a window manager / session manager on
the Sun which manages the X display on the PC. I've never done this
with CDE + Exceed, but I have done this with KDE, GNME + Cygwin. With
Cygwin on the PC, run xinit. That will give you a display which can be
managed by the Sun. the PC, use xhost +<sun-addressor xauth to
allow X clients to access your PC's X server. Telnet/ssh to the Sun,
use the DISPLAY=<pc-address>:0.0 env var to use the display on the PC,
then run "kdestart" or "gnome-session" or whatever is used to start a
CDE session. For example, this command: "DISPLAY=192.168.0.10:0.0
kdestart"

SunHELP maillist - SunHELP (AT) sunhelp (DOT) org

Chris Anderson wrote:
Sat, 2005-09-03 at 20:57 +0400, Valeriy Yankin wrote:

>>Dear subscribers,
>>
>>I am a Solaris newbie, and I have a question on my recently Solaris 9
>>12/02 x86. How do I run the graphics without a mouse and keyboard? I
>>mean how to start Xsun if I have no peripherals? It is necessary
>>because in the corner there my server resides there is no room for a
>>keyboard, and as for the mouse, I don't have a spare one. I plan to
>>display CDE on a Windows PC with Exceed.

You can't run Xsun. You can run a window manager / session manager on
the Sun which manages the X display on the PC. I've never done this
with CDE + Exceed, but I have done this with KDE, GNME + Cygwin. With
Cygwin on the PC, run xinit. That will give you a display which can be
managed by the Sun. the PC, use xhost +<sun-addressor xauth to
allow X clients to access your PC's X server. Telnet/ssh to the Sun,
use the DISPLAY=<pc-address>:0.0 env var to use the display on the PC,
then run "kdestart" or "gnome-session" or whatever is used to start a
CDE session. For example, this command: "DISPLAY=192.168.0.10:0.0
kdestart"

IIRC with Exceed it is even a little simpler. I think I used to run xdm
on the Sun (or linux box) and connect with Exceed. Exceed takes care of
the details. It'll also let you choose a full desktop (in which case you
get whatever you would if you were on the machine) or just apps (which
behaves like exporting the display and running an X app).

I think Exceed can behave like Xnest if that helps the explanation.

Steve

SunHELP maillist - SunHELP (AT) sunhelp (DOT) org

Sat, 2005-09-03 at 17:51 -0400, Steve Sandau wrote:
Chris Anderson wrote:
Sat, 2005-09-03 at 20:57 +0400, Valeriy Yankin wrote:

>>Dear subscribers,
>>
>>I am a Solaris newbie, and I have a question on my recently Solaris 9
>>12/02 x86. How do I run the graphics without a mouse and keyboard? I
>>mean how to start Xsun if I have no peripherals? It is necessary
>>because in the corner there my server resides there is no room for a
>>keyboard, and as for the mouse, I don't have a spare one. I plan to
>>display CDE on a Windows PC with Exceed.

You can't run Xsun. You can run a window manager / session manager on
the Sun which manages the X display on the PC. I've never done this
with CDE + Exceed, but I have done this with KDE, GNME + Cygwin. With
Cygwin on the PC, run xinit. That will give you a display which can be
managed by the Sun. the PC, use xhost +<sun-addressor xauth to
allow X clients to access your PC's X server. Telnet/ssh to the Sun,
use the DISPLAY=<pc-address>:0.0 env var to use the display on the PC,
then run "kdestart" or "gnome-session" or whatever is used to start a
CDE session. For example, this command: "DISPLAY=192.168.0.10:0.0
kdestart"

IIRC with Exceed it is even a little simpler. I think I used to run xdm
on the Sun (or linux box) and connect with Exceed. Exceed takes care of
the details. It'll also let you choose a full desktop (in which case you
get whatever you would if you were on the machine) or just apps (which
behaves like exporting the display and running an X app).

I think Exceed can behave like Xnest if that helps the explanation.

Not really :)

It looks like the cygwin X server will also do xdmcp, XWin -indirect
<xdm-hostand commenting out the /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config xdmcp port
disable:

#DisplayManager.requestPort: 0

works for me.

SunHELP maillist - SunHELP (AT) sunhelp (DOT) org

I am a Solaris newbie, and I have a question on my recently Solaris 9
12/02 x86. How do I run the graphics without a mouse and keyboard? I
mean how to start Xsun if I have no peripherals? It is necessary
because in the corner there my server resides there is no room for a
keyboard, and as for the mouse, I don't have a spare one. I plan to
display CDE on a Windows PC with Exceed.

You can't run Xsun. You can run a window manager / session manager on
the Sun which manages the X display on the PC. I've never done this
with CDE + Exceed, but I have done this with KDE, GNME + Cygwin. With
Cygwin on the PC, run xinit. That will give you a display which can be
managed by the Sun. the PC, use xhost +<sun-addressor xauth to
allow X clients to access your PC's X server. Telnet/ssh to the Sun,
use the DISPLAY=<pc-address>:0.0 env var to use the display on the PC,
then run "kdestart" or "gnome-session" or whatever is used to start a
CDE session. For example, this command: "DISPLAY=192.168.0.10:0.0
kdestart"
>>
>>IIRC with Exceed it is even a little simpler. I think I used to run xdm
>>on the Sun (or linux box) and connect with Exceed. Exceed takes care of
>>the details. It'll also let you choose a full desktop (in which case you
>>get whatever you would if you were on the machine) or just apps (which
>>behaves like exporting the display and running an X app).
>>
>>I think Exceed can behave like Xnest if that helps the explanation.

Not really :)

It looks like the cygwin X server will also do xdmcp, XWin -indirect
<xdm-hostand commenting out the /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config xdmcp port
disable:

#DisplayManager.requestPort: 0

works for me.

And this relates to the original post about CDE on Solaris and Exceed?
Regardless of what cygwin X will do, I believe what I said about Exceed
and xdm is correct.

Steve

SunHELP maillist - SunHELP (AT) sunhelp (DOT) org

9/3/05, Chris Anderson <christop (AT) charm (DOT) netwrote:

Sat, 2005-09-03 at 20:57 +0400, Valeriy Yankin wrote:
Dear subscribers,

I am a Solaris newbie, and I have a question on my recently Solaris 9
12/02 x86. How do I run the graphics without a mouse and keyboard? I
mean how to start Xsun if I have no peripherals? It is necessary
because in the corner there my server resides there is no room for a
keyboard, and as for the mouse, I don't have a spare one. I plan to
display CDE on a Windows PC with Exceed.

You can't run Xsun. You can run a window manager / session manager on
the Sun which manages the X display on the PC. I've never done this
with CDE + Exceed, but I have done this with KDE, GNME + Cygwin. With
Cygwin on the PC, run xinit. That will give you a display which can be
managed by the Sun. the PC, use xhost +<sun-addressor xauth to
allow X clients to access your PC's X server. Telnet/ssh to the Sun,
use the DISPLAY=<pc-address>:0.0 env var to use the display on the PC,
then run "kdestart" or "gnome-session" or whatever is used to start a
CDE session. For example, this command:
"DISPLAY=192.168.0.10:0<http://192.168.0.10:0>
.0
kdestart"

Thank you for the information. However, I would still like to ask the
following question: is it or not possible to run the X server without a
mouse or keyboard? If yes, how to do it? I have the dtlogin thing
running, I think I will figure out the rest.

Thank you.

SunHELP maillist - SunHELP (AT) sunhelp (DOT) org

Sun, 2005-09-04 at 21:48 +0400, Valeriy Yankin wrote:
Thank you for the information. However, I would still like to ask the
following question: is it or not possible to run the X server without
a
mouse or keyboard? If yes, how to do it? I have the dtlogin thing
running, I think I will figure out the rest.

You need dtlogin or xdm running on the Solaris server (or use the other
method with dtsession). To run, as root do: /usr/dt/dtlogin &,
or /usr/openwin/bin/xdm.

Then you can use the Exceed to connect to the Sun as an X terminal.
Both the Exceed docs and the Solaris admin docs should have better
information, since this is a common thing to run a headless Sun
serving X terminals.

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