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    It would be easy to let your child use the Internet as he or she wants;
    mistakenly thinking that no harm could essentially come out of it. The
    Internet is, after all, just a medium through which we can buy things,
    find out information and play games. Put like this, there seems to be
    little need to restrict our children's use of the Internet with an
    Internet filter, especially considering that there are so many other
    things they need protecting from first.
    Some parents like to give their children as much freedom as possible;
    encouraging them to be responsible for their own decisions and the
    consequences of their actions. There is however, a limit for any
    parent, and at this point they start to exercise their parental right
    to restrict their child's activities for his or her own protection.
    parents find out about the possible problems that the Internet can
    cause their children, and also quite how flexible Internet filters can
    be, they very often decide to exercise their parental rights, and turn
    to such software for help.
    Parents should be aware about the issues relating to Internet safety
    and child protection. does not need to get sensationalist to make
    parents consider installing an Internet filter onto their home
    computer. With a bit of research on the Internet; parents can find out
    all sorts of useful information about the troubles that the Internet
    can potentially cause children. Some of this might come as a surprise
    to some parents, and those that previous have not considered it
    necessary to restrict their child's access to the net might well decide
    that there is a need for it after all.
    of the primary, and most simple issue concerning your child's use
    of the Internet, is the shear amount of time that he or she spends on
    it. Children today spend an ever increasing proportion of their spare
    time behind the computer, more often than not surfing the web. Whilst
    in moderation this is not intrinsically a problem, in excess it can be
    hazardous for the child's all round mental and physical development. It
    is simply not what children are meant to do; sitting behind a computer
    for hours on end, instead of playing games that involve movement and
    socializing.
    Another important issue is the material that children have access to
    over the Internet. Without the kind of control and protection that an
    Internet filter provides; a child can stumble across images and texts
    that almost every parent in the world will agree are not suitable for
    children. This problem is compounded by the fact that many of these
    inappropriate sites appear of their own accord, and then can be quite
    hard to get rid of.
    No less big an issue (and potentially the most disastrous), derives
    from the opportunity the Internet gives to children to chat anonymously
    to anyone who has access to the web. This is possible through a variety
    of mediums, such as chat sites, messengers and blog sites. Whilst most
    of the people your child will talk to will be of a benelovent nature,
    there are a large number of people who use chat sites specifically to
    make contact with children, whilst pretending to be youngsters
    themselves, and then use this position to extract private information
    out of them. Sometimes they use the sites to flirt and play sexual
    games, and even sometimes to 'groom' children with the view of setting
    up a meeting. Unfortunately, these people are often very adept at
    blending into chat groups, making it very hard for your children to
    differentiate between them and genuine children.
    There are some people who think that Internet filters are just for
    religious types or overbearing parents, but that is really not true.
    They are in fact purchased by every layer of society; by people with a
    wide range of views, attitudes and moral standpoints. The reason why
    Internet filters are so popular amongst so many people, is because the
    degree of restriction that they bring to your computer and your child's
    use of the Internet can be completely customized to suit your needs.
    Internet filters are indeed very flexible.
    Internet filtering software enables you to set the level of restriction
    that you want for your child (which will be based on your views, the
    age of your child and so on).
    You can, for instance, set your Internet filter so that your child can
    only use the net for a small period of time a day, and only has access
    to a few websites that you have specially selected. the other end of
    the spectrum, however, you can give your child much longer access to
    the Internet each day, and let them have access to all sites except for
    a couple of specific websites that you have deemed inappropriate
    (perhaps, for instance, because your children spend far too much time
    on those sites).
    Internet filters can help you to significantly reduce the risks of your
    children experiencing the problems as described above. With an Internet
    filter installed on your computer, you can fine tune how your computer
    is used, and keep it at a level of restriction suitable for you.
    You can set how long your child can use the Internet each day, which
    sites he or she can access, which chat programs can be accessed and
    much more. Importantly, such programs enable you to set different
    levels of restriction for different users. This means that you can set
    up the restrictions according to the level of protection that you want
    to give each of your children; according to their age and their needs.
    There are many filters on the market and the best you can do is search
    though the websites and choose for yourself. Some of the most popular
    ones are iProtectYou at http://www.softforyou.com, and NetNanny.
    My child spends a lot of time surfing the net, and until recently I had
    no idea what he was looking at. Unfortunately though, I recently found
    out (by looking at the viewed web sites list) that my young son has
    been using the home computer to look at pornographic sites. This
    obviously has caused lots of consternation, and its not the sort of
    thing that I was just going to sweep under the carpet. The problem was
    that it was hard porn, and I really don't want him to be watching that
    stuff at his age (13) With a little investigation, it turned out that
    almost all of the time he was on the computer was spent looking at
    porn. All this time I thought he was just innocently searching the
    Internet, or doing his homework.
    I'm not the only parent in the area who has had such problems with
    their children.
    In fact, in a study by the London School of Economics, it was shown
    that 9 out of 10 children between the ages of 8 and 16 have accessed
    pornography on the Internet. Protecting children from these pornography
    sites is a challenge that all parents that I know are aware of.
    Everyone has their own methods; such as keeping the computer in a place
    where the parents can see what their children are viewing. The solution
    however that many parents have employed to keep their children from
    looking at porn; at least from the home computer, has been to purchase
    one of the many commercially available Internet filtering programs.
    There are seemingly 100's of such programs on the Internet, and I've
    heard feedback about quite a few of them.
    of these, the most well-received of all the programs that I came
    across is called iProtectYou. I henceforth decided to purchase it not
    long ago, and I am extremely satisfied with its performance.
    It has a huge inbuilt database of bad sites, and by turning that on my
    child was instantly denied access to the sort of sites that bother me;
    namely pornographic sites. There were also a small of specific sites
    that I wanted to be blocked that weren't in that database (because they
    aren't intrinsically bad sites; he just spends much to much time on
    them), and I was able to block them separately.
    With this program I have found that I can leave my child to surf the
    Internet, and know that he is doing it to his educational and
    developmental gain. I see other kids at home who surf the net for hours
    and hours and constantly come across sites and pop ups that are wholly
    unsuitable for them at their age. I've been telling other parents about
    the advantages of such software, and more and more of my friends have
    bought it, whilst others are still skeptical for some reason. Its
    available at softforyou.com
  • No.1 | | 5017 bytes | |

    13 Sep 2006, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.security, in article
    <1158156878.717506.156810@e63g2000cwd.googlegroups. com>, jon wrote:

    parents find out about the possible problems that the Internet can
    >cause their children, and also quite how flexible Internet filters can
    >be, they very often decide to exercise their parental rights, and turn
    >to such software for help.


    because they have no parenting skills, and the only reason they have children
    is that they didn't know what they were doing then either.

    >Another important issue is the material that children have access to
    >over the Internet. Without the kind of control and protection that an
    >Internet filter provides; a child can stumble across images and texts
    >that almost every parent in the world will agree are not suitable for
    >children.


    who haven't received the slightest training of any consequence from the
    parents who think that a magic bullet will do all the hard work for them.

    >This problem is compounded by the fact that many of these inappropriate
    >sites appear of their own accord, and then can be quite hard to get rid of.


    This occurs because the parents haven't the first clue of what the Internet
    is, how it operates, and why they themselves shouldn't be using a computer.
    Those little helper thingies you install so that you can get to your
    favorite pr0n site work for your children as well.

    >No less big an issue (and potentially the most disastrous), derives
    >from the opportunity the Internet gives to children to chat anonymously
    >to anyone who has access to the web.


    Parental supervision - a concept unknown to many.

    >There are some people who think that Internet filters are just for
    >religious types or overbearing parents, but that is really not true.
    >They are in fact purchased by every layer of society; by people with a
    >wide range of views, attitudes and moral standpoints.


    and a total lack of parenting skills. They hope that the filters will
    substitute for their own lack of interest in their children, and fail
    to understand that they are usually easy to bypass - what? You don't
    think children talk to each other? My, you must have forgotten your
    own youth, or your social skills then were such that you had no friends.

    >My child spends a lot of time surfing the net, and until recently I had
    >no idea what he was looking at.


    This happens to people who don't care about their children.

    >Unfortunately though, I recently found out (by looking at the viewed web
    >sites list) that my young son has been using the home computer to look
    >at pornographic sites.


    wonders how you finally discovered that fact.

    >With a little investigation, it turned out that almost all of the time he
    >was on the computer was spent looking at porn. All this time I thought he
    >was just innocently searching the Internet, or doing his homework.


    Yes, you are to st00pid to bother to train your child, and don't give a
    care to what he was doing. You are the one contributing to the downfall
    of the child.

    >Protecting children from these pornography sites is a challenge that all
    >parents that I know are aware of.


    but you didn't want to waste your own time working with your child to
    learn good and evil. Talk to the child? Why? You wouldn't even know
    where to start. Do you even know your child's name? Do you have any
    idea where the child is now? Didn't think so.

    of these, the most well-received of all the programs that I came
    >across is called iSPAMforU


    >It has a huge inbuilt database of bad sites, and by turning that on my
    >child was instantly denied access to the sort of sites that bother me;
    >namely pornographic sites.


    How would you know? You don't bother being around when your child is
    surfing - so you have no idea how the child bypassed this piece of crap.

    >NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.23.122.114


    inetnum: 193.23.122.0 - 193.23.122.255
    netname: FARVATER-NET
    org-name: Farvater Ltd
    address: 21 Polupanova str
    address: Kiev
    address: UA

    I must say, your English is pretty good for a Ukrainian - but then you
    are more likely the author of this spyware, posting through an open relay,
    and you don't have any children because you are to busy surfing the pr0n
    sites and those of the opposite sex find you repulsive. What's new?

    guy
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    Moe Trin wrote:
    13 Sep 2006, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.security, in article
    <1158156878.717506.156810@e63g2000cwd.googlegroups. com>, jon wrote:
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    []

    guy

    While I agree that the eloquently written article was certainly an ad,
    and definitely out of place in this newsgroup, I rather resent some of
    the response.

    In giving such a general response, you put down any parent looking for
    technical aids to limit their children's access to the internet, and
    more importantly, limiting other internet users' access to their
    children. I strongly disagree with the implied statement that any parent
    looking for such aid has failed in parenting. (I sincerely hope I
    misunderstood you.)

    Those who don't care or don't think there's a danger, on the other hand,
    are in grave danger of failing the task.

    When I lock the door at night, it's partly to keep my kids in, but more
    importantly, it helps keep the bad elements out. And just for the
    record, my kids know how to operate a doorlock, as well as other barriers
  • No.3 | | 4268 bytes | |

    Tue, 19 Sep 2006, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.security, in article
    <450f2c4f@news.broadpark.no>, Keme wrote:
    >Moe Trin wrote:
    >13 Sep 2006, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.security, in article
    ><1158156878.717506.156810@e63g2000cwd.googlegroups. com>, jon wrote:


    >While I agree that the eloquently written article was certainly an ad,


    Most professionally written advertisements are eloquent. The also bend the
    facts to suit the product they are flogging, and unless required by law
    would never hint at conflicting data much less discuss it. Standard answer
    is that they are paying to put their point across, and they can not see
    any need to advertise anything that would reduce their take.

    >and definitely out of place in this newsgroup, I rather resent some of
    >the response.
    >
    >In giving such a general response, you put down any parent looking for
    >technical aids to limit their children's access to the internet, and
    >more importantly, limiting other internet users' access to their
    >children.


    Read it again - the klown was advertising this "product" as a substitute
    for parenting.

    With an Internet filter installed on your computer, you can fine tune
    how your computer is used, and keep it at a level of restriction
    suitable for you. You can set how long your child can use the Internet
    each day, which sites he or she can access, which chat programs can be
    accessed and much more.

    Everyone wants simple, work-free solutions - just take this pill, and you
    will loose all that excess weight (with no need to exercise or stop eating
    all those fattening foods). The most obvious place where this concept
    falls apart is that (strangely) your computer isn't the only one in the
    world that your child has access to. What a strange concept.

    >I strongly disagree with the implied statement that any parent looking
    >for such aid has failed in parenting. (I sincerely hope I misunderstood
    >you.)


    Parents who look at network filters as the magical solution to all their
    problems of raising their children _are_ failing. Such filters _might_
    reduce the number of accidental exposures occurring at this computer, but
    are no substitute for one-on-one training so that the kid knows WHY some
    sites are unsuitable.

    >Those who don't care or don't think there's a danger, on the other hand,
    >are in grave danger of failing the task.


    My child spends a lot of time surfing the net, and until recently I had
    no idea what he was looking at. Unfortunately though, I recently found
    out (by looking at the viewed web sites list) that my young son has
    been using the home computer to look at pornographic sites.

    That klown has N interest in what his child is doing. NNE. And just
    as obviously, there has never been any training of WHY some sites are
    dangerous, bad or otherwise unsuitable.

    >When I lock the door at night, it's partly to keep my kids in,


    Don't they obey you?

    >And just for the record, my kids know how to operate a doorlock, as well
    >as other barriers


    That's the other main failing in these filters. St00pid parent installs them
    and thinks that they have solved the problem of Internet Pr0n and similar
    risks, and also have no idea that the filters are trivial to bypass because
    they have no desire to know anything about their computer, and "out of sight,
    out of mind". The child on the other hand is spending LTS of time looking
    at the computer, and their friends are explaining the key sequence to block
    the blocker. But even if the parents are computer wizards who can set up
    the computer so that bypassing is difficult, the kid merely has to go
    next-door, or down the street.

    Teach the child, rather than putting up artificial (and easily bypassed)
    barriers and _hoping_ that the problem will go away.

    guy

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