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I have some difficulty getting RealAudio streams to play successfully in
Konqueror. (Mandriva 2005LE, KDE 3.3.2, Konqueror 3.3.2)
1. If I visit
,
the audio plays as a plugin, apparently using kaffeine. Unfortunately
konqueror invariably crashes afterwards, so I want to get it to use a
different plugin, nphelix.so, in the hope that it will no longer crash.
The konqueror plugin config already shows nphelix.so is available.
(nphelix.so works well in firefox.)
How do I get konqueror to use the nphelix.so plugin?
2. Alternatively, how could I get the stream to open in a standalone
application (eg kaffeine) instead of as a plugin? (That is what konqueror
3.2 did in Mdk 10.0, and I like that behaviour.)
3. If I visit
,
the stream plays successfully in kaffeine.
How could I get this to play in eg helixplayer instead?
Thanks
John
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Thursday 14 Jul 2005 19:22, John Hunt wrote:
I have some difficulty getting RealAudio streams to play successfully in
Konqueror. (Mandriva 2005LE, KDE 3.3.2, Konqueror 3.3.2)

1. If I visit
,
the audio plays as a plugin, apparently using kaffeine. Unfortunately
konqueror invariably crashes afterwards, so I want to get it to use a
different plugin, nphelix.so, in the hope that it will no longer crash.
The konqueror plugin config already shows nphelix.so is available.
(nphelix.so works well in firefox.)

Hi, John. I'm running the same 2005LE setup. In the left-hand column you
have the option to play the program in a stand-alone real player, which works
fine, and konqueror seems quite happy with it.

Anne - from West Yorkshire ;-)
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Thursday 14 Jul 2005 21:07, Anne Wilson wrote:
Hi, John. I'm running the same 2005LE setup. In the left-hand column
you have the option to play the program in a stand-alone real player,
which works fine, and konqueror seems quite happy with it.

Hi Anne. Yes, but that option is not available for Radio 3. And if
konqueror has already started playing using the kaffeine plugin, it is
probably doomed to crash. (I'm back in Mdk 10.0 at the moment so can't
check that.)

John
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Thursday 14 Jul 2005 21:28, John Hunt wrote:
Thursday 14 Jul 2005 21:07, Anne Wilson wrote:
Hi, John. I'm running the same 2005LE setup. In the left-hand column
you have the option to play the program in a stand-alone real player,
which works fine, and konqueror seems quite happy with it.

Hi Anne. Yes, but that option is not available for Radio 3. And if
konqueror has already started playing using the kaffeine plugin, it is
probably doomed to crash. (I'm back in Mdk 10.0 at the moment so can't
check that.)

I'm not sure what's happening, John. It looks as though some of the content
of both radio3 and radio4 is in Real format, and plays fine with the
stand-alone player, while other parts of it show all right, but no sound
comes out. Konqueror is not crashing, though.

FWIW, I used to listen to radio4 frequently before I upgraded to 2005LE, so
there must be a solution to this. I suppose that the first thing is to try
to find out what format those other files are, so that we can set file
associations for them. I do have x-realaudio and x-real-audio both set to
Totem, but without knowing the format, it's difficult to advise. Perhaps you
could start by putting Totem above Kaffeine for each audio format, and see if
you still get crashes. If you don't. put Kaffeine back for any format that
you would prefer it, and test again.

Sorry I can't be more definite.

Anne
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Thu 14 July 2005 14:22, John Hunt wrote:
I have some difficulty getting RealAudio streams to play successfully
in Konqueror. (Mandriva 2005LE, KDE 3.3.2, Konqueror 3.3.2)

These should be doable from the same place, though because of the way
the Real stream is embedded in a document the 2nd and 3rd may not be
possible. At any rate, you want to open up Konq's Settings and go to
File Associations. From the tree list select Audio | x-pn-realaudio.

1. If I visit

, the audio plays as a plugin, apparently using kaffeine.
Unfortunately konqueror invariably crashes afterwards, so I want to
get it to use a different plugin, nphelix.so, in the hope that it
will no longer crash. The konqueror plugin config already shows
nphelix.so is available. (nphelix.so works well in firefox.)

How do I get konqueror to use the nphelix.so plugin?

the Embedding tab and move the NSPlugin to the top of the list (the
Kaffeine plugin will probably be there right now). That should be
enough. If the NSPlugin is not there then that is damned odd.

2. Alternatively, how could I get the stream to open in a standalone
application (eg kaffeine) instead of as a plugin? (That is what
konqueror 3.2 did in Mdk 10.0, and I like that behaviour.)

Make sure that Kaffeine is at the top of the Application Preference
stack. Then in the Embedding tab check the "Show file in separate
viewer" radio button. I think this will work but I haven't tried it.

3. If I visit
,
the stream plays successfully in kaffeine.

How could I get this to play in eg helixplayer instead?

Make sure that Helixplayer is at the top of the Application Preference
stack. Then do the same as above in #2 for the Embedding tab.

Whichever you do press Apply and Konq should apply the new settings but
you may have to relaunch it.

Hope that helps.
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Thu 14 July 2005 14:22, John Hunt wrote:
I have some difficulty getting RealAudio streams to play successfully
in Konqueror. (Mandriva 2005LE, KDE 3.3.2, Konqueror 3.3.2)

These should be doable from the same place, though because of the way
the Real stream is embedded in a document the 2nd and 3rd may not be
possible. At any rate, you want to open up Konq's Settings and go to
File Associations. From the tree list select Audio | x-pn-realaudio.

1. If I visit

, the audio plays as a plugin, apparently using kaffeine.
Unfortunately konqueror invariably crashes afterwards, so I want to
get it to use a different plugin, nphelix.so, in the hope that it
will no longer crash. The konqueror plugin config already shows
nphelix.so is available. (nphelix.so works well in firefox.)

How do I get konqueror to use the nphelix.so plugin?

the Embedding tab and move the NSPlugin to the top of the list (the
Kaffeine plugin will probably be there right now). That should be
enough. If the NSPlugin is not there then that is damned odd.

2. Alternatively, how could I get the stream to open in a standalone
application (eg kaffeine) instead of as a plugin? (That is what
konqueror 3.2 did in Mdk 10.0, and I like that behaviour.)

Make sure that Kaffeine is at the top of the Application Preference
stack. Then in the Embedding tab check the "Show file in separate
viewer" radio button. I think this will work but I haven't tried it.

3. If I visit
,
the stream plays successfully in kaffeine.

How could I get this to play in eg helixplayer instead?

Make sure that Helixplayer is at the top of the Application Preference
stack. Then do the same as above in #2 for the Embedding tab.

Whichever you do press Apply and Konq should apply the new settings but
you may have to relaunch it.

Hope that helps.
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Thursday 14 Jul 2005 21:28, John Hunt wrote:
Thursday 14 Jul 2005 21:07, Anne Wilson wrote:
Hi, John. I'm running the same 2005LE setup. In the left-hand column
you have the option to play the program in a stand-alone real player,
which works fine, and konqueror seems quite happy with it.

Hi Anne. Yes, but that option is not available for Radio 3. And if
konqueror has already started playing using the kaffeine plugin, it is
probably doomed to crash. (I'm back in Mdk 10.0 at the moment so can't
check that.)

John - I think there is a big problem here. After further investigation I
find that some broadcasts are in .ram format, and it's easy to get them
playing, but others have the suffix .rpm - which is configured to use
Software Installer.

Anne
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Thursday 14 Jul 2005 21:28, John Hunt wrote:
Thursday 14 Jul 2005 21:07, Anne Wilson wrote:
Hi, John. I'm running the same 2005LE setup. In the left-hand column
you have the option to play the program in a stand-alone real player,
which works fine, and konqueror seems quite happy with it.

Hi Anne. Yes, but that option is not available for Radio 3. And if
konqueror has already started playing using the kaffeine plugin, it is
probably doomed to crash. (I'm back in Mdk 10.0 at the moment so can't
check that.)

I find I can get many links working with the stand-alone realplayer, but
anything that doesn't give me that option will not play. The problem could
be with the plugin version. Have you seen this page?

There are tips and links about getting it working with linux, and also request
feedback.

Anne

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Friday 15 Jul 2005 09:18, Anne Wilson wrote:
John - I think there is a big problem here. After further investigation
I find that some broadcasts are in .ram format, and it's easy to get them
playing, but others have the suffix .rpm - which is configured to use
Software Installer.

In Mozilla-firefox, the .rpm's (eg at
)
caused a prompt to install a missing plugin. This went away when I
installed RealPlayer 10, and the plugin works well. However, on my system
konqueror uses a kaffeine plugin, both before and after I installed
RealPlayer 10.
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Friday 15 July 2005 10:18, Anne Wilson wrote:

John - I think there is a big problem here. After further investigation I
find that some broadcasts are in .ram format, and it's easy to get them
playing, but others have the suffix .rpm - which is configured to use
Software Installer.

If it is an URL served by a web server, this shouldn't be a problem, as the
web server sends (or is supposed to send) the MIME type of the content as
part of the response.

Cheers,
Kevin
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Friday 15 Jul 2005 16:13, John Hunt wrote:

In Mozilla-firefox, the .rpm's (eg at
)
caused a prompt to install a missing plugin.

I never got that - the play button gets depressed, as it were, but nothing
ever happens, no sound, and no way out without killing it.

This went away when I
installed RealPlayer 10, and the plugin works well.

I tried that, and although Mozilla tells me it is installed, when I try to
play one of the .rpm files it says that it can't find a helix player.
Firefox just behaves as before.

However, on my system
konqueror uses a kaffeine plugin, both before and after I installed
RealPlayer 10.

Have you tried, in kcontrol components file associations to search
for .ram (and also .rpm), then see whether you can get the helix player to
the top of the list?

Do you use kaffeine for other things? If you only use it for one or two
things, I'd remove it from the play lists altogether, then re-add it (using
'open with') when I needed it.

I haven't had much time to play with this this afternoon. It would be nice to
get it sorted, although most of the broadcasts that I want do work with the
stand-alone player. thing I want to try is getting rid of the old real
player plugin.

Anne
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Friday 15 Jul 2005 18:45, Kevin Krammer wrote:
Friday 15 July 2005 10:18, Anne Wilson wrote:
John - I think there is a big problem here. After further investigation
I find that some broadcasts are in .ram format, and it's easy to get them
playing, but others have the suffix .rpm - which is configured to use
Software Installer.

If it is an URL served by a web server, this shouldn't be a problem, as the
web server sends (or is supposed to send) the MIME type of the content as
part of the response.

Fair enough.

There are various hints to try, on the bbc help page. Some say that the helix
player needs to be installed as root - I installed as user. said that he
had to disable arts. Another said he used 'artsdsp /usr/bin/realplay' to get
it working. Another created a link from his home directory. There are
other ideas there, too. I hope to play with some of these tonight. If I
have any success I'll report back, for the sake of the archives.

Anne
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Friday 15 Jul 2005 04:38, David P James wrote:
Thu 14 July 2005 14:22, John Hunt wrote:
I have some difficulty getting RealAudio streams to play successfully
in Konqueror. (Mandriva 2005LE, KDE 3.3.2, Konqueror 3.3.2)

These should be doable from the same place, though because of the way
the Real stream is embedded in a document the 2nd and 3rd may not be
possible. At any rate, you want to open up Konq's Settings and go to
File Associations. From the tree list select Audio | x-pn-realaudio.

1. How do I get konqueror to use the nphelix.so plugin?
the Embedding tab and move the NSPlugin to the top of the list (the
Kaffeine plugin will probably be there right now). That should be
enough. If the NSPlugin is not there then that is damned odd.

Changing x-pn-realaudio makes no difference, but moving NSplugin to the top
in x-pn-realaudio-plugin stops kaffeine working. Unfortunately the nsplugin
does nothing, it appears it does not work in konqueror for some reason.

2. Alternatively, how could I get the stream to open in a standalone
application (eg kaffeine) instead of as a plugin?

Make sure that Kaffeine is at the top of the Application Preference
stack. Then in the Embedding tab check the "Show file in separate
viewer" radio button. I think this will work but I haven't tried it.

I've tried that with x-pn-realaudio and x-pn-realaudio-plugin. I doesn't
work - it appears that the "Show file in separate viewer" setting is
ignored in this context.

How could I get this (*.ram) to play in eg helixplayer instead?

Make sure that Helixplayer is at the top of the Application Preference
stack. Then do the same as above in #2 for the Embedding tab.

This works, via x-pn-realaudio.

So, some progress, but I still can't play RealAudio in konqueror where the
web page is using a plugin.
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Friday 15 Jul 2005 21:37, John Hunt wrote:

So, some progress, but I still can't play RealAudio in konqueror where the
web page is using a plugin.

Mine are all working at last, in Mozilla, FireFox and Konqueror. It may be a
completely different problem from yours, but what was needed was:

cd /usr/bin
ln -s /usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay

Apparently it just hadn't been able to find realplay in the system path.

Anne
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Friday 15 Jul 2005 22:41, Anne Wilson wrote:
Friday 15 Jul 2005 21:37, John Hunt wrote:
Mine are all working at last, in Mozilla, FireFox and Konqueror. It may
be a completely different problem from yours, but what was needed was:

cd /usr/bin
ln -s /usr/local/RealPlayer/realplay

Apparently it just hadn't been able to find realplay in the system path.

That link already exists.

It would be instructive to compare which RPMs we have installed. I'll
e-mail you off-list, and report back here if this reveals anything
interesting.

John
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Having compared notes with Anne and carried out some tests, I now think that
the problem is not specific to RealAudio, but is a more general problem
with netscape plugins in konqueror. I'll start a new thread
John

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