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    My daughter has a 18 month-old laptop running XP. A month or so ago
    she got a computer virus that she couldn't rid of. A computer science
    major at her school restored the machine to an early point and
    everything was fine, though of course she lost all her documents.
    She brought the machine home and I downloaded and installed all the XP
    updates, including SP2, w/o a problem. Today, though, the MS Windows
    Update web site told us that she had an illegal version of XP. It said
    her Volume License Key was listed as pirated.
    I tried a number of things and all I can come up with is that the virus
    damaged the boot sector on her hard drive. I'm hoping that
    reinstalling XP from scratch will fix the problem but I'm not sure.
    My questions:
    Does my diagnosis sound right? If not, what else mught be happening
    and what else could I try?
    Would a reinstall of XP fix things or do I need to do something more
    drastic like wipe the hard drive first?
    TIA.
  • No.1 | | 1587 bytes | |

    sethgreeley@hotmail.com wrote:

    My daughter has a 18 month-old laptop running XP. A month or so ago
    she got a computer virus that she couldn't rid of. A computer science
    major at her school restored the machine to an early point and
    everything was fine, though of course she lost all her documents.

    She brought the machine home and I downloaded and installed all the XP
    updates, including SP2, w/o a problem. Today, though, the MS Windows
    Update web site told us that she had an illegal version of XP. It said
    her Volume License Key was listed as pirated.

    I tried a number of things and all I can come up with is that the virus
    damaged the boot sector on her hard drive. I'm hoping that
    reinstalling XP from scratch will fix the problem but I'm not sure.

    My questions:

    Does my diagnosis sound right? If not, what else mught be happening
    and what else could I try?

    Would a reinstall of XP fix things or do I need to do something more
    drastic like wipe the hard drive first?

    TIA.

    Seth,

    Gee. A pirated copy of Windows XP on box that some Computer Science
    geeks have been playing with? Imagine that.

    In all seriousness, the number one rule of computer security is
    keeping your S updated. That is hard to do anymore without a valid MS
    authentication. If I were you, I would start with a fresh, legal
    install of Windows XP on a reformatted HD. This should be an
    insignificant cost compared to raising a daughter. Been there, done that.

    Ron :)
  • No.2 | | 1444 bytes | |


    <sethgreeley@hotmail.comwrote in message
    news:1136609913.540117.126490@
    My daughter has a 18 month-old laptop running XP. A month or so ago
    she got a computer virus that she couldn't rid of. A computer science
    major at her school restored the machine to an early point and
    everything was fine, though of course she lost all her documents.

    She brought the machine home and I downloaded and installed all the XP
    updates, including SP2, w/o a problem. Today, though, the MS Windows
    Update web site told us that she had an illegal version of XP. It said
    her Volume License Key was listed as pirated.

    I tried a number of things and all I can come up with is that the virus
    damaged the boot sector on her hard drive. I'm hoping that
    reinstalling XP from scratch will fix the problem but I'm not sure.

    My questions:

    Does my diagnosis sound right? If not, what else mught be happening
    and what else could I try?

    Would a reinstall of XP fix things or do I need to do something more
    drastic like wipe the hard drive first?

    TIA.

    First off, if they went back to a retore point she would not have lost her
    documents.
    They must have re-installed XP with a Pirate copy, most likely XP Pro Corp
    ver.

    Keep those hacker dorks away from the computer and take it to a good mom and
    pop computer repair place.

    Mich

  • No.3 | | 1384 bytes | |

    Mich wrote:

    18 month-old laptop running XP. A computer science
    major at her school restored the machine to an early
    point though of course she lost all her documents.

    Changing to an earlier restore point would not have resulted in lost
    documents.

    I downloaded and installed all the XP updates, including SP2,
    w/o a problem. Today, though, the MS Windows Update web site
    told us that she had an illegal version of XP. It said
    her Volume License Key was listed as pirated.

    First off, if they went back to a retore point she would not
    have lost her documents.
    They must have re-installed XP with a Pirate copy, most likely
    XP Pro Corp ver.

    I agree with this diagnosis. The dorks should have backed up personal
    documents before they obviously formatted the drive and re-installed a
    pirate version of XP.

    I'm not sure what point your system is at, but if you can get it to
    ask for a new or different license number, then find the one that came
    with the system and enter it.

    you may have a non-functional computer in 3 days (or less).

    If you have to re-install the S all over again, I suggest obtaining
    and installing Win-98. I haven't seen a laptop yet where you can't
    obtain all necessary Windows-98 drivers for the various internal
    hardware components.
  • No.4 | | 1813 bytes | |

    Actually it was simpler than that. As I was turning off the machine,
    XP notified me that there were automatic updates ready to be installed.
    that was done the problem went away. Apparently, having the
    updates already being inplace interfered with the validation process.

    So no pirated software. If there had been I wouldn't have been able to
    install SP2 in the first place.

    Virus Guy wrote:
    Mich wrote:

    18 month-old laptop running XP. A computer science
    major at her school restored the machine to an early
    point though of course she lost all her documents.

    Changing to an earlier restore point would not have resulted in lost
    documents.

    I downloaded and installed all the XP updates, including SP2,
    w/o a problem. Today, though, the MS Windows Update web site
    told us that she had an illegal version of XP. It said
    her Volume License Key was listed as pirated.

    First off, if they went back to a retore point she would not
    have lost her documents.
    They must have re-installed XP with a Pirate copy, most likely
    XP Pro Corp ver.

    I agree with this diagnosis. The dorks should have backed up personal
    documents before they obviously formatted the drive and re-installed a
    pirate version of XP.

    I'm not sure what point your system is at, but if you can get it to
    ask for a new or different license number, then find the one that came
    with the system and enter it.

    you may have a non-functional computer in 3 days (or less).

    If you have to re-install the S all over again, I suggest obtaining
    and installing Win-98. I haven't seen a laptop yet where you can't
    obtain all necessary Windows-98 drivers for the various internal
    hardware components.

  • No.5 | | 417 bytes | |

    Just disable the WGA ActiveX control inside IE. :)

    In all seriousness, the number one rule of computer security is keeping
    your S updated. That is hard to do anymore without a valid MS
    authentication. If I were you, I would start with a fresh, legal install
    of Windows XP on a reformatted HD. This should be an insignificant cost
    compared to raising a daughter. Been there, done that.

    Ron :)
  • No.6 | | 2367 bytes | |


    sethgreeley@hotmail.com wrote:
    My daughter has a 18 month-old laptop running XP. A month or so ago
    she got a computer virus that she couldn't rid of. A computer science
    major at her school restored the machine to an early point and
    everything was fine, though of course she lost all her documents.

    If she lost her documents, they didn't restore it to an earlier point;
    they wiped and reloaded it. Incidently, if they did that to remove a
    virus, somebody isn't paying attention in computer scienceand you
    said this idiot is a major? sigh.

    She brought the machine home and I downloaded and installed all the XP
    updates, including SP2, w/o a problem. Today, though, the MS Windows
    Update web site told us that she had an illegal version of XP. It said
    her Volume License Key was listed as pirated.

    That would make sense. Your major malfunction wannabe computer science
    dip**** loaded a corp copy with a known bad key. If your going to play
    with corp, use good keys Ugh Anyways, they didn't roll back
    anything, they reloaded the box with a warez S; your not entitled to
    it.

    I tried a number of things and all I can come up with is that the virus
    damaged the boot sector on her hard drive. I'm hoping that
    reinstalling XP from scratch will fix the problem but I'm not sure.

    I'm hoping it didn't take you too long to come up with such a half ass
    brain dead excuse, reason? for the problem. The virus didn't damage
    anything, and most likely; without seeing the machine, it probably
    wasn't actually a virus. many times, people will say anything is a
    virus.

    My questions:

    Does my diagnosis sound right? If not, what else mught be happening
    and what else could I try?

    Your diagnosis is so far off the mark, if points were awarded for
    stupidity, you'd be a grand prize winner.

    Try reloading a valid S Use the product key attached likely to
    the bottom of the laptop, and tell pinhead daughter not to do that
    stupid **** again.

    Would a reinstall of XP fix things or do I need to do something more
    drastic like wipe the hard drive first?

    A reinstall of a legal copy of XP will fix it yes.

    Regards,
    Dustin Cook
    http://bughunter.atspace.org

  • No.7 | | 971 bytes | |


    sethgreeley@hotmail.com wrote:
    Actually it was simpler than that. As I was turning off the machine,
    XP notified me that there were automatic updates ready to be installed.
    that was done the problem went away. Apparently, having the
    updates already being inplace interfered with the validation process.

    So no pirated software. If there had been I wouldn't have been able to
    install SP2 in the first place.

    Not true. Sp1 and sp2 only blacklist some corp keys, not all.

    An easy way to check of your S, is to right click on my computer and
    hit properties. If you don't see some EM-more numbers, then
    your bootleg.

    641, 642, etc in place of EM is a corporate XP.

    Your daughter shouldn't have lost any documents fixing the problem.
    Clearly the computer science department in her university is a waste of
    resources.

    Regards,
    Dustin Cook
    http://bughunter.atspace.org

  • No.8 | | 618 bytes | |

    Dustin Cook wrote:
    [snip]
    If she lost her documents, they didn't restore it to an earlier point;
    they wiped and reloaded it. Incidently, if they did that to remove a
    virus, somebody isn't paying attention in computer scienceand you
    said this idiot is a major? sigh.

    heck, i saw similar ignorance from those who'd gone beyond just majoring
    in comp.sci

    viruses are apparently close enough to magic in the collective
    consciousness of society that otherwise intelligent people are rarely
    exposed to the kind of useful information that would promote critical
    thinking
  • No.9 | | 858 bytes | |

    In article <AfHwf.6678$Pq4.131066@news20.bellglobal.com>,
    kurtw@sympatico.ca says
    Dustin Cook wrote:
    [snip]
    If she lost her documents, they didn't restore it to an earlier point;
    they wiped and reloaded it. Incidently, if they did that to remove a
    virus, somebody isn't paying attention in computer scienceand you
    said this idiot is a major? sigh.

    heck, i saw similar ignorance from those who'd gone beyond just majoring
    in comp.sci

    viruses are apparently close enough to magic in the collective
    consciousness of society that otherwise intelligent people are rarely
    exposed to the kind of useful information that would promote critical
    thinking
    --
    At our Uni, CompSci courses don't use or teach Windows. I'm not
    sure they consider Windows machines to be proper computers.
  • No.10 | | 169 bytes | |


    Befunge Sudoku wrote:
    At our Uni, CompSci courses don't use or teach Windows. I'm not
    sure they consider Windows machines to be proper computers.
  • No.11 | | 244 bytes | |

    "Befunge Sudoku" wrote:
    At our Uni, CompSci courses don't use or teach Windows. I'm not
    sure they consider Windows machines to be proper computers.
    No doubt they'd prefer the Manchester Mk.I ;)
  • No.12 | | 1140 bytes | |

    Befunge Sudoku wrote:
    kurtw@sympatico.ca says
    >>Dustin Cook wrote:
    >>[snip]
    >>

    If she lost her documents, they didn't restore it to an earlier point;
    they wiped and reloaded it. Incidently, if they did that to remove a
    virus, somebody isn't paying attention in computer scienceand you
    said this idiot is a major? sigh.
    >>
    >>heck, i saw similar ignorance from those who'd gone beyond just majoring
    >>in comp.sci
    >>
    >>viruses are apparently close enough to magic in the collective
    >>consciousness of society that otherwise intelligent people are rarely
    >>exposed to the kind of useful information that would promote critical
    >>thinking

    >

    At our Uni, CompSci courses don't use or teach Windows. I'm not
    sure they consider Windows machines to be proper computers.

    yeah, we all used solaris in the comp.sci. labs at my university
    doesn't really excuse the ignorance, though
  • No.13 | | 285 bytes | |

    In article <1136928988.701488.275690
    @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, bughunter.dustin@gmail.com
    says
    Befunge Sudoku wrote:
    At our Uni, CompSci courses don't use or teach Windows. I'm not
    sure they consider Windows machines to be proper computers.
  • No.14 | | 414 bytes | |

    In article <dq1tp2$orc$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, not@home.today
    says
    "Befunge Sudoku" wrote:

    At our Uni, CompSci courses don't use or teach Windows. I'm not
    sure they consider Windows machines to be proper computers.

    No doubt they'd prefer the Manchester Mk.I ;)

    I think they run an emulation of it. The real one's over the
    road in the museum now, I think.
  • No.15 | | 632 bytes | |

    In article <Yy%wf.7301$W03.439619@news20.bellglobal.com>,
    kurtw@sympatico.ca says
    Befunge Sudoku wrote:

    At our Uni, CompSci courses don't use or teach Windows. I'm not
    sure they consider Windows machines to be proper computers.

    yeah, we all used solaris in the comp.sci. labs at my university
    doesn't really excuse the ignorance, though

    Perhaps they came from a milieu like some halls of residence
    here, where the IT support group gave up under the onslaught
    and adopted a policy of wipe-and-reinstall as their default,
    because it was (a) often quicker and (b) certain.
  • No.16 | | 833 bytes | |


    "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.comwrote in message news:1136928988.701488.275690@

    Befunge Sudoku wrote:

    At our Uni, CompSci courses don't use or teach Windows. I'm not
    sure they consider Windows machines to be proper computers.

    What do they teach that gives you the impression a Windows machine
    exists? Windows is an operating system And only an operating
    system Hmm

    I know what he meansbut

    I was thinking the same thing. you consider that most software platforms
    are capable of running programs that emulate other Ses - that would put any
    focus on a particular S outside the scope of CompSci. Unless CompSci isn't
    what I think it is. Could he dust off his Turing Machine owner's manual and tell
    me what S it is running. :))

  • No.17 | | 1000 bytes | |

    In article <11sap76mitli7b8@corp.supernews.com>, code800
    @elsewhere.invalid says

    "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.comwrote in message news:1136928988.701488.275690@

    Befunge Sudoku wrote:

    At our Uni, CompSci courses don't use or teach Windows. I'm not
    sure they consider Windows machines to be proper computers.

    What do they teach that gives you the impression a Windows machine
    exists? Windows is an operating system And only an operating
    system Hmm

    I know what he meansbut

    I was thinking the same thing. you consider that most software platforms
    are capable of running programs that emulate other Ses - that would put any
    focus on a particular S outside the scope of CompSci. Unless CompSci isn't
    what I think it is. Could he dust off his Turing Machine owner's manual and tell
    me what S it is running. :))
    >
    >
    >

    Furrfu!
    It was supposed to be a JKE!
  • No.18 | | 1074 bytes | |

    Befunge Sudoku wrote:
    kurtw@sympatico.ca says
    [snip]
    >>yeah, we all used solaris in the comp.sci. labs at my university
    >>doesn't really excuse the ignorance, though

    >

    Perhaps they came from a milieu like some halls of residence
    here, where the IT support group gave up under the onslaught
    and adopted a policy of wipe-and-reinstall as their default,
    because it was (a) often quicker and (b) certain.

    the kind of apathy/resignation you're talking about really doesn't match
    with my impression of them to be honest, i wish i'd written that
    article of mine about viruses and disclosure years ago so that i could
    have shared it with them - their attitudes and policies were quite
    wrong-headed and the arguments i made at the time weren't as good as
    what i've got now

    come to think of it, that guy who came up with the virus writing course
    at uni-alberta would probably have been welcomed with open arms by the
    faculty
  • No.19 | | 1566 bytes | |

    Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:03:34 -0000, Befunge Sudoku
    <daviddotbudd@manchester.ac.ukwrote:

    >In article <11sap76mitli7b8@corp.supernews.com>, code800
    >@elsewhere.invalid says
    >>

    >"Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.comwrote in message news:1136928988.701488.275690@
    >>

    >Befunge Sudoku wrote:
    >>

    >At our Uni, CompSci courses don't use or teach Windows. I'm not
    >sure they consider Windows machines to be proper computers.
    >>

    >What do they teach that gives you the impression a Windows machine
    >exists? Windows is an operating system And only an operating
    >system Hmm
    >>

    >I know what he meansbut
    >>

    >I was thinking the same thing. you consider that most software platforms
    >are capable of running programs that emulate other Ses - that would put any
    >focus on a particular S outside the scope of CompSci. Unless CompSci isn't
    >what I think it is. Could he dust off his Turing Machine owner's manual and tell
    >me what S it is running. :))
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >Furrfu!
    >It was supposed to be a JKE!


    Well, some folks see Windows as a joke. call it a virus. And some folks
    here don't have a hella sense of humour anyway.

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