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    My brother has an old system with a 13GB Seagate drive which is showing
    some occassional bad sector warnings. It came with an EM copy of
    Windows 98 on a partition, and he doesn't have a full Windows CD to
    install from (just a "restore" CD).
    I have a spare 13GB drive, but for all the hardware knowledge I have
    I've never cloned a drive before. Can anyone recommend a small program
    that I can run from boot floppy which will clone everything including
    the partition structure across to this spare drive? It would be good if
    it can format the spare drive to FAT32 as well, but I can do that
    separately if necessary.
    TIA
  • No.1 | | 1249 bytes | |

    Cuzman <cuzNSPAM@supanet.comwrote

    My brother has an old system with a 13GB Seagate drive which is showing some
    occassional bad sector warnings. It came with an EM copy of Windows 98 on a
    partition, and he doesn't have a full Windows CD to install from (just a
    "restore" CD).

    I have a spare 13GB drive, but for all the hardware knowledge I have I've
    never cloned a drive before.

    Its not necessarily a very good idea to clone a drive that has
    bad sectors, you are basically copying the bad sectors if the
    cloner doesnt just give up on the first bad sector.

    Can anyone recommend a small program that I can run from boot floppy which
    will clone everything including the partition structure across to this spare
    drive?

    Those bad sectors will be a problem if they are still present.

    If not, the cheapest approach is ghost thats included in
    systemworks pro 2003 thats available off ebay for peanuts.
    Must be systemworks pro, ghost isnt included in systemworks.

    It would be good if it can format the spare drive to FAT32 as well, but I can
    do that separately if necessary.

    The clone operation copys the formatting at the time it clones.

  • No.2 | | 44 bytes | |

    r-studio can do the trick
  • No.3 | | 1616 bytes | |

    Just make sure the target partition is exactly the same size as the source
    partition; otherwise, Ghost will bomb.

    "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.comwrote in message
    news:3r5gs6FhrribU1@individual.net
    Cuzman <cuzNSPAM@supanet.comwrote
    >
    >My brother has an old system with a 13GB Seagate drive which is showing
    >some occassional bad sector warnings. It came with an EM copy of
    >Windows 98 on a partition, and he doesn't have a full Windows CD to
    >install from (just a "restore" CD).
    >
    >I have a spare 13GB drive, but for all the hardware knowledge I have I've
    >never cloned a drive before.
    >

    Its not necessarily a very good idea to clone a drive that has
    bad sectors, you are basically copying the bad sectors if the
    cloner doesnt just give up on the first bad sector.
    >
    >Can anyone recommend a small program that I can run from boot floppy
    >which will clone everything including the partition structure across to
    >this spare drive?
    >

    Those bad sectors will be a problem if they are still present.

    If not, the cheapest approach is ghost thats included in
    systemworks pro 2003 thats available off ebay for peanuts.
    Must be systemworks pro, ghost isnt included in systemworks.
    >
    >It would be good if it can format the spare drive to FAT32 as well, but I
    >can do that separately if necessary.
    >

    The clone operation copys the formatting at the time it clones.

  • No.4 | | 152 bytes | |

    Just make sure the target partition is exactly the same size as the source
    partition; otherwise, Ghost will bomb.
    Nonsense.
  • No.5 | | 1904 bytes | |

    Andy <kanadaiy@telus.netwrote

    Just make sure the target partition is exactly the same size as the source
    partition; otherwise, Ghost will bomb.

    Bull**** with 2003.

    Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.comwrote
    >Cuzman <cuzNSPAM@supanet.comwrote


    My brother has an old system with a 13GB Seagate drive which is
    showing some occassional bad sector warnings. It came with an EM
    copy of Windows 98 on a partition, and he doesn't have a full
    Windows CD to install from (just a "restore" CD).
    >>

    I have a spare 13GB drive, but for all the hardware knowledge I
    have I've never cloned a drive before.
    >>

    >Its not necessarily a very good idea to clone a drive that has
    >bad sectors, you are basically copying the bad sectors if the
    >cloner doesnt just give up on the first bad sector.
    >>

    Can anyone recommend a small program that I can run from boot floppy
    which will clone everything including the partition structure
    across to this spare drive?
    >>

    >Those bad sectors will be a problem if they are still present.
    >>

    >If not, the cheapest approach is ghost thats included in
    >systemworks pro 2003 thats available off ebay for peanuts.
    >Must be systemworks pro, ghost isnt included in systemworks.
    >>

    It would be good if it can format the spare drive to FAT32 as well,
    but I can do that separately if necessary.
    >>

    >The clone operation copys the formatting at the time it clones.


  • No.6 | | 1704 bytes | |

    I use 2004.

    "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.comwrote in message
    news:3r5t2pFhsf3gU1@individual.net
    Andy <kanadaiy@telus.netwrote
    >
    >Just make sure the target partition is exactly the same size as the
    >source partition; otherwise, Ghost will bomb.
    >

    Bull**** with 2003.
    >
    >
    >Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.comwrote

    Cuzman <cuzNSPAM@supanet.comwrote

    My brother has an old system with a 13GB Seagate drive which is
    showing some occassional bad sector warnings. It came with an EM
    copy of Windows 98 on a partition, and he doesn't have a full
    Windows CD to install from (just a "restore" CD).

    I have a spare 13GB drive, but for all the hardware knowledge I
    have I've never cloned a drive before.

    Its not necessarily a very good idea to clone a drive that has
    bad sectors, you are basically copying the bad sectors if the
    cloner doesnt just give up on the first bad sector.

    Can anyone recommend a small program that I can run from boot floppy
    which will clone everything including the partition structure
    across to this spare drive?

    Those bad sectors will be a problem if they are still present.

    If not, the cheapest approach is ghost thats included in
    systemworks pro 2003 thats available off ebay for peanuts.
    Must be systemworks pro, ghost isnt included in systemworks.

    It would be good if it can format the spare drive to FAT32 as well,
    but I can do that separately if necessary.

    The clone operation copys the formatting at the time it clones.
    --

  • No.7 | | 2557 bytes | |

    I was taken aback by the negative reactions to my comment by people I
    respect, for I had more than once failed to restore Ghost image files to
    target partitions that differed in size from the source partition. So I
    decided to get to the bottom of this matter.

    I created two partitions, one slightly smaller and one slightly larger than
    the source partition, then restored the Ghost image file to both. It worked!
    So the objections were well founded. My apologies for giving people a bum
    steer.

    The question remains why I got different results in the past, and I can come
    up with only one explanation. The motherboard in my machine has recently
    been replaced due to a faulty disk controller. I assume that the faulty disk
    controller on the old motherboard caused the problem. Is this a reasonable
    explanation?

    Andy

    "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.comwrote in message
    news:3r5t2pFhsf3gU1@individual.net
    Andy <kanadaiy@telus.netwrote
    >
    >Just make sure the target partition is exactly the same size as the
    >source partition; otherwise, Ghost will bomb.
    >

    Bull**** with 2003.
    >
    >
    >Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.comwrote

    Cuzman <cuzNSPAM@supanet.comwrote

    My brother has an old system with a 13GB Seagate drive which is
    showing some occassional bad sector warnings. It came with an EM
    copy of Windows 98 on a partition, and he doesn't have a full
    Windows CD to install from (just a "restore" CD).

    I have a spare 13GB drive, but for all the hardware knowledge I
    have I've never cloned a drive before.

    Its not necessarily a very good idea to clone a drive that has
    bad sectors, you are basically copying the bad sectors if the
    cloner doesnt just give up on the first bad sector.

    Can anyone recommend a small program that I can run from boot floppy
    which will clone everything including the partition structure
    across to this spare drive?

    Those bad sectors will be a problem if they are still present.

    If not, the cheapest approach is ghost thats included in
    systemworks pro 2003 thats available off ebay for peanuts.
    Must be systemworks pro, ghost isnt included in systemworks.

    It would be good if it can format the spare drive to FAT32 as well,
    but I can do that separately if necessary.

    The clone operation copys the formatting at the time it clones.
    --

  • No.8 | | 3026 bytes | |

    Andy <kanadaiy@telus.netwrote

    I was taken aback by the negative reactions to my comment by people I respect,
    for I had more than once failed to restore Ghost image files to target
    partitions that differed in size from the source partition. So I decided to
    get to the bottom of this matter.

    I created two partitions, one slightly smaller and one slightly larger than
    the source partition, then restored the Ghost image file to both. It worked!
    So the objections were well founded. My apologies for giving people a bum
    steer.

    The question remains why I got different results in the past,

    Some of the ghosts can be quite buggy, particularly ghost 9.

    Not sure what you mean by ghost 2004.

    and I can come up with only one explanation. The motherboard in my machine has
    recently been replaced due to a faulty disk controller. I assume that the
    faulty disk controller on the old motherboard caused the problem. Is this a
    reasonable explanation?

    Yes, and the failure may not have had anything to do
    with the relative partition sized, it may just have failed
    and the size difference was just a coincidence.

    "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.comwrote in message
    news:3r5t2pFhsf3gU1@individual.net
    >Andy <kanadaiy@telus.netwrote
    >>

    Just make sure the target partition is exactly the same size as the
    source partition; otherwise, Ghost will bomb.
    >>

    >Bull**** with 2003.
    >>
    >>

    Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.comwrote
    Cuzman <cuzNSPAM@supanet.comwrote
    >>

    My brother has an old system with a 13GB Seagate drive which is
    showing some occassional bad sector warnings. It came with an EM
    copy of Windows 98 on a partition, and he doesn't have a full
    Windows CD to install from (just a "restore" CD).

    I have a spare 13GB drive, but for all the hardware knowledge I
    have I've never cloned a drive before.

    Its not necessarily a very good idea to clone a drive that has
    bad sectors, you are basically copying the bad sectors if the
    cloner doesnt just give up on the first bad sector.

    Can anyone recommend a small program that I can run from boot
    floppy which will clone everything including the partition
    structure across to this spare drive?

    Those bad sectors will be a problem if they are still present.

    If not, the cheapest approach is ghost thats included in
    systemworks pro 2003 thats available off ebay for peanuts.
    Must be systemworks pro, ghost isnt included in systemworks.

    It would be good if it can format the spare drive to FAT32 as
    well, but I can do that separately if necessary.

    The clone operation copys the formatting at the time it clones.

  • No.9 | | 1560 bytes | |


    "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.comwrote in message
    news:3r7od6Fi10tkU2@individual.net
    Andy <kanadaiy@telus.netwrote
    >
    >I was taken aback by the negative reactions to my comment by people I
    >respect, for I had more than once failed to restore Ghost image files to
    >target partitions that differed in size from the source partition. So I
    >decided to get to the bottom of this matter.
    >
    >I created two partitions, one slightly smaller and one slightly larger
    >than the source partition, then restored the Ghost image file to both. It
    >worked! So the objections were well founded. My apologies for giving
    >people a bum steer.
    >
    >The question remains why I got different results in the past,
    >

    Some of the ghosts can be quite buggy, particularly ghost 9.

    Not sure what you mean by ghost 2004.

    I meant Ghost contained in Norton SystemWorks 2004.

    >
    >and I can come up with only one explanation. The motherboard in my
    >machine has recently been replaced due to a faulty disk controller. I
    >assume that the faulty disk controller on the old motherboard caused the
    >problem. Is this a reasonable explanation?
    >

    Yes, and the failure may not have had anything to do
    with the relative partition sized, it may just have failed
    and the size difference was just a coincidence.

    Thanks for edifying this technoklutz.

    Andy

    [snip]

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