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    Hi All !
    Is Full Join is supported by Sybase ASE 12.x? If yes, can someone
    please explain me what syntax is to be used?
    Thanks.
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    khalil.tahir@gmail.com wrote:
    Hi All !
    Is Full Join is supported by Sybase ASE 12.x? If yes, can someone
    please explain me what syntax is to be used?
    Thanks.
    Nope -- yet another feature that Sybase does not support directly.
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    In article <1158071015.584943.82760@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.c om>,
    zeldorblat@gmail.com says

    khalil.tahir@gmail.com wrote:
    Hi All !

    Is Full Join is supported by Sybase ASE 12.x? If yes, can someone
    please explain me what syntax is to be used?

    Thanks.

    Nope -- yet another feature that Sybase does not support directly.

    Sybase's Adaptive Server Anywhere (AKA SQLAnywhere) does.
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    David Kerber wrote:
    In article <1158071015.584943.82760@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.c om>,
    zeldorblat@gmail.com says

    khalil.tahir@gmail.com wrote:
    Hi All !

    Is Full Join is supported by Sybase ASE 12.x? If yes, can someone
    please explain me what syntax is to be used?

    Thanks.

    Nope -- yet another feature that Sybase does not support directly.

    Sybase's Adaptive Server Anywhere (AKA SQLAnywhere) does.
  • No.4 | | 776 bytes | |

    ZeldorBlat wrote:

    So, in other words, Sybase feels that features like full outer joins
    (which are supported by most other database servers) is only useful in
    "database-powered applications for mobile, remote, and small- to
    medium-sized business environments" (ASA) but /not/ in
    "mission-critical, transaction-intensive applications" (ASE).

    I'd say it's more a case of buying a product that already
    supported FJ (which became ASA) while continuing to offer
    their own product that did not (directly) support FJ (ASE).

    But since a FJ is a union of a LJ and a RJ, we're not
    talking about a lack of -support- here, we're talking about
    a lack of a keyword.

    Larry Coon
    University of California
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    "Larry Coon" <lmcoon_nospam@cox.netwrote in message
    news:450752A0.DF0@cox.net
    ZeldorBlat wrote:

    So, in other words, Sybase feels that features like full outer joins
    (which are supported by most other database servers) is only useful in
    "database-powered applications for mobile, remote, and small- to
    medium-sized business environments" (ASA) but /not/ in
    "mission-critical, transaction-intensive applications" (ASE).

    I'd say it's more a case of buying a product that already
    supported FJ (which became ASA) while continuing to offer
    their own product that did not (directly) support FJ (ASE).

    But since a FJ is a union of a LJ and a RJ, we're not
    talking about a lack of -support- here, we're talking about
    a lack of a keyword.
    --
    Larry Coon
    University of California

    Indeed. And there are other ways to simulate a full outer join as well.
    If you have a copy of my book "Tips, Tricks & Recipes for Sybase ASE", see
    section 6.2.5 for an example.

    HTH,

    Rob V.

    Rob Verschoor

    Certified Sybase Professional DBA for ASE 12.5/12.0/11.5/11.0
    and Replication Server 12.5 / TeamSybase

    Author of Sybase books (order online at www.sypron.nl/shop):
    "Tips, Tricks & Recipes for Sybase ASE" (new edition!)
    "The Complete Sybase ASE Quick Reference Guide" (new edition!)
    "The Complete Sybase Replication Server Quick Reference Guide"

    mailto:rob@YUR.SPAM.sypron.nl.NT.FR.ME
    http://www.sypron.nl
    Sypron B.V., PBox 10695, 2501HR Den Haag, The Netherlands

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    Tue, 19 Sep 2006, rob@ wrote:
    "Larry Coon" <lmcoon_nospam@cox.netwrote in message
    news:450752A0.DF0@cox.net
    >ZeldorBlat wrote:
    >>

    >So, in other words, Sybase feels that features like full outer
    >joins (which are supported by most other database servers) is only
    >useful in "database-powered applications for mobile, remote, and
    >small- to medium-sized business environments" (ASA) but /not/ in
    >"mission-critical, transaction-intensive applications" (ASE).
    >>

    >I'd say it's more a case of buying a product that already
    >supported FJ (which became ASA) while continuing to offer
    >their own product that did not (directly) support FJ (ASE).
    >>

    >But since a FJ is a union of a LJ and a RJ, we're not
    >talking about a lack of -support- here, we're talking about
    >a lack of a keyword.
    >>
    >>

    >Larry Coon
    >University of California
    >

    Indeed. And there are other ways to simulate a full outer join as
    well. If you have a copy of my book "Tips, Tricks & Recipes for
    Sybase ASE", see section 6.2.5 for an example.

    Is there a standard on _how_ the database is supposed to support the
    syntax?

    cannot check against the nullability of the outer join restrictions
    within the select clause, plus, they don't support inline views (except,
    I believe it the most latest version), so, I'm almost always forced into
    a temp table solution when using outer joins, no matter what the syntax.

    Its quite a bit frustrating, because I'm allowed to do other expressions
    on the select list, such as CASE statements, but if an outer join is
    involved, I'm not allowed to perform expressions on the nullability.

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