["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:54:50 -0500, news@absamail.co.za staggered into
the Black Sun and said:
It's often occured to me that since life would be so much more
difficult without mc. Are there other simmilar menu-based
killer-apps, for other tasks which I'm missing?

Depends on exactly what it is that you want to do. mc is (mostly) a
command-line file manager. mutt, slrn, and emacs are examples of
command-line mail, NNTP, and complete operating environments. They're
not really "menu-driven" though.

It would be great if there was an IDE like Turbo Pascal started
and was copied by others decades ago.

People who love the command line and want IDE-like environments tend to
gravitate to emacs. There are all kinds of hooks within emacs and vim
for working with source code man page for function under cursor,
auto-complete word under cursor, use ctags to find definition of
function under cursor, etcetera. emacs also can work with gdb, which
vim seems to have a harder time doing.

for the first time I'm trying mc's undelete, and it's been running for
30 minutes on a 8 Gb partition

"Undelete" doesn't really work on ext3 or ReiserFS for various technical
reasons. If you're using ext2, you really shouldn't be, since ext3 has
journalling. It may be possible to simulate undelete by grepping the
entire filesystem, but that takes forever. The steps to take, really,
are:

0. Regular backups.
1. Use "rm -i".
2. Use KDE/GNME/your window manager's "trash can".
3. Install one of the "libtrash" libraries that use various tricks to
turn unlink() into rename(".trash/originalfilename") or something like
that.

If I put /home, /root, /usr of different partitions (using mc of
course), how does rebooting automatically find/mount them?

It doesn't, unless you use mount-by-label, which has some problems if
you have 2 or more filesystems with the same label. And you should not
put /root on a partition that's separate from / . /bin , /sbin , /lib ,
/etc , /root , and /dev must be on / .

Do I just edit /etc/fstab, and if so what do I add ?

/usr /dev/hdXY ext3 noatime 1 2
/home /dev/hdXY ext3 noatime 1 2

replace with the appropriate device node names, the appropriate
mountpoints, and the appropriate filesystem types.

2005-07-11, Dances With Crows <danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@gmail.comwrote:
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:54:50 -0500, news@absamail.co.za staggered into
the Black Sun and said:
>It's often occured to me that since life would be so much more
>difficult without mc. Are there other simmilar menu-based
>killer-apps, for other tasks which I'm missing?
>
Depends on exactly what it is that you want to do. mc is (mostly) a
command-line file manager. mutt, slrn, and emacs are examples of
command-line mail, NNTP, and complete operating environments. They're
not really "menu-driven" though.

snip

Lynx for web-browsing, SnowNews for RSS, Leafnode for NNTP cache, wget for
FTP,

I'm using the editor that comes with mc (mcedit) as my preferred editor for
use with slrn. It uses Aspell (or Ispell) as a spelling checker.

* Whiskers Wrote in alt.os.linux.mandrake:

2005-07-11, Dances With Crows
<danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@gmail.comwrote:
>["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:54:50 -0500, news@absamail.co.za staggered
>into the Black Sun and said:
It's often occured to me that since life would be so much more
difficult without mc. Are there other simmilar menu-based
killer-apps, for other tasks which I'm missing?
>>
>Depends on exactly what it is that you want to do. mc is
>(mostly) a command-line file manager. mutt, slrn, and emacs are
>examples of command-line mail, NNTP, and complete operating
>environments. They're not really "menu-driven" though.
>
snip

Lynx for web-browsing, SnowNews for RSS, Leafnode for NNTP cache,
wget for FTP,

I'm using the editor that comes with mc (mcedit) as my preferred
editor for use with slrn. It uses Aspell (or Ispell) as a
spelling checker.

Interesting. Why not vi[m]?

In article <D8mdnWJ-kdbXC0_fRVn-jg@is.co.za>, <news@absamail.co.zawrote:
>
>
>It's often occured to me that since life would be so much more
>difficult without mc -- I'd have to tap-around-in-the-dark like:

Personally, I prefer ls.

Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:40:37 -0500, Thomas Bartkus wrote:
I, too, still have the warm and fuzzies for that old Turbo Pascal IDE!
Thomas Bartkus
Let's not overlook Free Pascal and its included IDE.
Gary

Whiskers wrote:

2005-07-11, Dances With Crows <danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@gmail.com>
wrote:
>["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:54:50 -0500, news@absamail.co.za staggered into
>the Black Sun and said:
It's often occured to me that since life would be so much more
difficult without mc. Are there other simmilar menu-based
killer-apps, for other tasks which I'm missing?
>>
>Depends on exactly what it is that you want to do. mc is (mostly) a
>command-line file manager. mutt, slrn, and emacs are examples of
>command-line mail, NNTP, and complete operating environments. They're
>not really "menu-driven" though.
>
snip

Lynx for web-browsing, SnowNews for RSS,
Leafnode for NNTP cache

speaking of leafnode. dont forget to update it as a number of
vulnerabilities in the leafnode NNTP server package have been found:

Package name: leafnode
Advisory ID: MDKSA-2005:114
Date: July 11th, 2005

Affected versions: 10.1, 10.2, Corporate 3.0
A vulnerability in the fetchnews program that could under some
circumstances cause a wait for input that never arrives, which in
turn would cause fetchnews to hang (CAN-2004-2068).

Two vulnerabilities in the fetchnews program can cause fetchnews to
crash when the upstream server closes the connection and leafnode is
receiving an article header or an article body, which prevent leafnode
from querying other servers that are listed after that particular
server in the configuration file (CAN-2005-1453).

Finally, another vulnerability in the fetchnews program could also
cuase a wait for input that never arrives, causing fetchnews to
hang (CAN-2005-1911).

, wget for
FTP,

I'm using the editor that comes with mc (mcedit) as my preferred editor
for
use with slrn. It uses Aspell (or Ispell) as a spelling checker.

2005-07-12, js <soul_linux@my_place.comwrote:

snip

speaking of leafnode. dont forget to update it as a number of
vulnerabilities in the leafnode NNTP server package have been found:

snip

I just got the "[Security Announce] MDKSA-2005:114 - Updated leafnode
packages fix multiple vulnerabilities" e-mail :)) It's mentioned in
Secunia too.

Whiskers wrote:

2005-07-12, js <soul_linux@my_place.comwrote:

snip
>
>speaking of leafnode. dont forget to update it as a number of
>vulnerabilities in the leafnode NNTP server package have been found:
>
snip

I just got the "[Security Announce] MDKSA-2005:114 - Updated leafnode
packages fix multiple vulnerabilities" e-mail :)) It's mentioned in
Secunia too.

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