My big questions are:
1.Will Turbo Delphi Pro compile D7 and earlier code? From what
Borland says - probably. Has anyone tried any existing big programs in
Turbo Pro yet?
2.Will installing any of the Turbo compilers interfere with BDS?
I haven't found the answer to that one yet and I don't want to reformat
and reload if the worst case appears and Turbo takes down my D7 system.
3.Do the Turbo systems connect to SQL Server? So far, I don't
know. Has anyone tried?
As for any Delphi being slow - try doing 100+ compile/load/debug
cycles in Visual Studio and do the same thing in D7 or earlier - Delphi
is 10 to 20 times faster overall. I haven't worked with Delphi for NET,
but if it as slow as VS, it is probably due to the HUGE code bloat and
inefficiencies of NET itself.
Yeah, I'd rather see a Pro for $50 or a time-limited sample of
the system like Microsoft does for VS. Explorer won't fit my needs, so
there is little point in trying it. So, I guess I'll keep watching the
Net for answers to my questions or just back up everything and go for
broke.
Personally, I hope Borland keeps on going. I've been a Borland
fan since Turbo Pascal 1. But, the past year has forced me to try
Visual Studio, and while it has some good points, I find it far less
productive overall, in spite of all the bells and whistles. If I must
continue my work using Microsoft products, I may go back to being a
hardware store clerk. Too big, too clumsy, too much stuff in the way I
just don't have any use for. T MUCH TRUBLE all in all. Good luck
Borland!
Terry Robinson
Colorado Division of Wildlife
Roaring Judy Hatchery
14131 Highway 135
Almont, C 81210
970-641-0190
Terry.Robinson (AT) State (DOT) CUS
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Is it fair to assume that if Devco is able to make a successful go of
Delphi, that I can expect to see a Borland Delphi 2007/2008/etc and
Turbo versions of the individual programs as well?

In other words, is Delphi going to continue to have yearly releases,
and become 64-bit as well?

, none of you have a crystal ball and D would have to be
profitable, but I'm wondering if Borland has specifically announced
anything about their plans for the future.

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From: "Robinson, Terry" <Terry.Robinson (AT) State (DOT) CUS>
My big questions are:
1. Will Turbo Delphi Pro compile D7 and earlier code? From what
Borland says - probably. Has anyone tried any existing big programs in
Turbo Pro yet?
2. Will installing any of the Turbo compilers interfere with BDS?
I haven't found the answer to that one yet and I don't want to reformat
and reload if the worst case appears and Turbo takes down my D7 system.
3. Do the Turbo systems connect to SQL Server? So far, I don't
know. Has anyone tried?

As for any Delphi being slow - try doing 100+ compile/load/debug
cycles in Visual Studio and do the same thing in D7 or earlier - Delphi
is 10 to 20 times faster overall. I haven't worked with Delphi for NET,
but if it as slow as VS, it is probably due to the HUGE code bloat and
inefficiencies of NET itself.

Yeah, I'd rather see a Pro for $50 or a time-limited sample of
the system like Microsoft does for VS. Explorer won't fit my needs, so
there is little point in trying it. So, I guess I'll keep watching the
Net for answers to my questions or just back up everything and go for
broke.

Personally, I hope Borland keeps on going. I've been a Borland
fan since Turbo Pascal 1. But, the past year has forced me to try
Visual Studio, and while it has some good points, I find it far less
productive overall, in spite of all the bells and whistles. If I must
continue my work using Microsoft products, I may go back to being a
hardware store clerk. Too big, too clumsy, too much stuff in the way I
just don't have any use for. T MUCH TRUBLE all in all. Good luck
Borland!

Terry Robinson
Colorado Division of Wildlife
Roaring Judy Hatchery
14131 Highway 135
Almont, C 81210
970-641-0190
Terry.Robinson (AT) State (DOT) CUS
1. I tried it on some of mine. It is the D2005 compiler (Win 32) so should
have no probs but if you use any components other than Borlands forget it.
You can open and build dpks but if you try and install it says 'No way
Jose.!' (My words) .

2. It may work ok, ie it tries to take over .pas mappings etc but thats
usual. It uses bds 4.0 in the registry key so I think it will happily
coexist (but if you try to install another Turbo Product- that will NT
work - the installer whinges. Possibly it could be got round by some
creative registry editing I'm not sure). It uses the same Licence Manager
and I had D7 (from the BDS 2005) on and the Licence manager showed all the
licences including an expired trial.

I'm not sure about SQL server as my copy is installed at work.

David Bolton

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I've got two old freeware components, including source, that are used
for MIDI and multimedia timing. Though they're not visual (in the
sense that they're not intended to ever be visually seen on a form),
I can build each of them and drag and drop them into my D2005
Pro. Since Borland's offering to let me use D2006 Turbo for free,
I'm wondering how to use those components.

Do I just include the source and call to it? do I have to hack
slightly at the source, removing the TComponent ancestry, etc.? If I
have to hack, can someone please tell me how?

Thanks very much.

-Paul

At 07:57 AM 9/9/2006, Jangita @ FSA wrote:
>jangita (AT) jangita (DOT) com wrote:
>
>And yes; it does connect to ms sql server and you can use custom
>components as long as you do it all in code (that is, you do not install
>the design time bpl's which it wont allow; so you create the components
>use and free them), which makes it a bit tricky for custom visual
>components.

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Thanks for the tip.

Sorry for the imprecise names. I currently own Delphi 2005 Pro, as
well as having recently d/l'ed Turbo Deplhi (2006) Explorer, which
I'd prefer to use for my Delphi (P) work, only because presumably
it's not only later, but greater.

Also, if I can get by without 3rd party visual components, presumably
I can continue to upgrade to next year's version, as they come out.

-Paul

At 04:25 PM 10/7/2006, you wrote:

>Paul A. wrote:
I've got two old freeware components, including source, that are used
for MIDI and multimedia timing. Though they're not visual (in the
sense that they're not intended to ever be visually seen on a form),
I can build each of them and drag and drop them into my D2005
Pro. Since Borland's offering to let me use D2006 Turbo for free,
I'm wondering how to use those components.
>
>The product is Turbo Delphi. The Explorer edition doesn't allow
>non-Borland packages to be installed. The Professional edition does.
>Delphi 2006 is its own product. There is no product called Delphi 2006
>Turbo.
>
Do I just include the source and call to it?
>
>Yes. Create instances of your components the same as you'd create
>instances of any other class:
>
>Instance := TComponent.Create(nil);
>
>Feel free to specify an owner for the component if you want, instead of nil.
>
do I have to hack
slightly at the source, removing the TComponent ancestry, etc.?
>
>Since it probably doesn't need to descend from TComponent, you may as
>well just make it descend from T instead.
>

>Rob
>

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