It's K anybody start vulnerability research from script(php or perl),
but it's not good for someone to stay at "script kid" level, huh?

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2006/10/21, Gadi Evron <ge (AT) linuxbox (DOT) org>:
Fri, 20 2006, Dr. Neal Krawetz wrote:
Fri 20 15:49:53 2006, Gadi Evron wrote:

Cool article, but n3td3v is not gobbles. For one, easy analysis shows he
is English.

Gadi.

Thanks Gadi.

However, I'm going to call you on this:
1. What "easy analysis" are you using?
I listed my approaches. If you are using a different approach, I'd
like to hear what it is. (I'm not trying to be argumentative -- I
want to learn.)

2. You said, "n3td3v is not gobbles".
Do you know for a fact that n3td3v is not Gobbles Security?
is this an interpretation?
If you know for a fact, then how do you know?

1-Sep-2006, a new person controlling the n3td3v account appeared.
He is likely English/Brit (based on the topics he posted). But I did not
see enough text to analyze.
The older n3td3v postings were by 3 people, not one person.
(And primarily by three people -- a few postings were ambiguous and could
indicate more people.)

1. He speaks Real English.
2. He mentions UK currency.
3. He said as much, speaking of UK issues.
4. He gave his real name.

Your analysis is amazing, and shows how these things should be done. But
misses that much. Gobbles was about fun, n3td3v took himself seriously
rather than just his goal of making the world a better place.

Aside to that, yes, I know. But as I can't mention how, it's silly for me
to stick to anything but the above.
>
>From the UK. Highly likely from the North of England or Scotland.
>
Did you ever talk to n3td3v or ask him? Behind all that posted, he really
seems like a good guy with good intentions.

Your analysis really is good, but it comes to no conclusions. I want to
advoid the "yes he is" "no he isn't" discussion that's to follow. View my
comments as "opinion".

Why idolize people?

Gadi.
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Fri, 20, 2006 at 05:27:35PM -0500, Gadi Evron wrote:

1. He speaks Real English.

en -zh -en
Has is any countermeasure the bastard which should die to the language?
Machine-assisted language normalization help? True English this, does not
have?

en -nl -en

There are any counter-measures to language the ****ing? The automated aid of
language standardisation? Real English this, no.?

Thu, 2006-10-26 at 23:05 +0545, Bipin Gautam wrote:
So I stick to my personal opinion of the great man -

1. person
2. Good intentions overall
3. Not great communication skills (depends how drunk he is)
4. Too paranoid for his own good
5. Living in Ediburgh
6. Most likely Scottish

ok despite everything (assuming he isnt suffering from personality
disorder ) he has communicated with so many people. been with many his
type in friendship & flame war and other stuffs.

I still have a question (though he was good his way) how can someone
who have acted so STUPID & irrational in conversation be intelligent
enough to hide his online identity to a fair degree?

I'd say he created few personalities on his own mind, played them like
puppets & hide the REAL himself in the noise. I am intrested enough to
track him down. lets see!

Did any of the list members stop for a second to think that the infamous
troll is posting on the list to this day, still looking for ways to make
him feel good about himself ?

I find it most disturbing that thanks to you people, he might have the
possibility to tell people "Look how famous I am!".

N3td0rk! If you're posting about yourself again from one of your split
personalities, STP IT! It's gonna only confuse you even more and your
nervous breakdown when you'll realise that you're nothing more then a
scene whore with no future whatsoever will be worse then you can
imagine.

hahaha n3td3v owns your collective asses

11/2/06, Alexandru Balan <abalan (AT) bitdefender (DOT) comwrote:

Thu, 2006-10-26 at 23:05 +0545, Bipin Gautam wrote:
So I stick to my personal opinion of the great man -

1. person
2. Good intentions overall
3. Not great communication skills (depends how drunk he is)
4. Too paranoid for his own good
5. Living in Ediburgh
6. Most likely Scottish

ok despite everything (assuming he isnt suffering from personality
disorder ) he has communicated with so many people. been with many his
type in friendship & flame war and other stuffs.

I still have a question (though he was good his way) how can someone
who have acted so STUPID & irrational in conversation be intelligent
enough to hide his online identity to a fair degree?

I'd say he created few personalities on his own mind, played them like
puppets & hide the REAL himself in the noise. I am intrested enough to
track him down. lets see!

Did any of the list members stop for a second to think that the infamous
troll is posting on the list to this day, still looking for ways to make
him feel good about himself ?

I find it most disturbing that thanks to you people, he might have the
possibility to tell people "Look how famous I am!".

N3td0rk! If you're posting about yourself again from one of your split
personalities, STP IT! It's gonna only confuse you even more and your
nervous breakdown when you'll realise that you're nothing more then a
scene whore with no future whatsoever will be worse then you can
imagine.